[pure-silver] Re: Calling All Chemists: When To Tone?

  • From: John Stockdale <jstoc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:07:32 +1000

You're right that the PermaWash (like HCA right?) isn't achieving much prior to KRST.  I don't regularly use selenium, but I've read that acid in the print is likely to cause staining, so some people use a non-acidic fixer instead of standard fixer, or a mildly alkaline bath prior to toning.  This is to ensure no acid in the paper: longer water wash at that stage is able to be avoided. Then hypo clearing after toning.

Actually, the active ingredient in KRST is made from thiosulphate with a sulphur atom replaced by a selenium one.  Selenium is chemically similar to sulphur in the periodic table.  I could find some history if you're interested.

No doubt others with more practical experience will chime in.


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On 17/04/2023 4:47 am, Tim Daneliuk (tundra) wrote:

My normal archival fixing disciplines is:

1.  One minute fix in Ilford rapid fixer
2.  Five minute running water wash
3.  Five minute PermaWash treatment
4.  3-7 min in Kodak Rapid Selenium Toner 1:40
5.  60min running water wash in an Eco Washer


Years ago, I tried combining the PermaWash and Toner
steps by diluting the KRST further to get a minimum
of 5 minutes time.  This cause intermittent staining.

But as I read the ingredients for these concoctions,
I realized that KRST has Sodium Thiosulphate in it.
So ... should I really be toning first then hypo
clearning?

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