[pure-silver] Re: Bokeh - no longer relevant? (some fun stuff for Friday)

  • From: richard lahrson <gtripspud@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:50:36 -0800

Hi,

     Is bokeh largely dependent on the number of aperture blades in the lens?
Lens can have 12, 10, 8 or 6 blades with some point and shot cameras
having only 2 blades.  The lenses that some photographers praise generally
seem to have more aperture blades.

                                                                            Rich

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Fred Rosenberg <fdr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> What's the problem?  Sounds like two reasonably presented points of view on
> the same subject.  Is there suppose to be a winner?
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> Fred
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> On 18/01/2013 9:11 AM, Dana Myers wrote:
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>> Someone I know recently got a new camera. Her son is teaching her
>> photography.
>> She mentioned "shallow depth of field" and I suggested she should ask her
>> son about "bokeh".
>>
>> Here's the conversation that followed - am I being too harsh? Who is
>> teaching
>> the kids these days?!?!
>>
>> Son: Bokeh is the fancy term for things that are out of focus. However I
>>      usually hear it used primarily to described out of focus highlights
>>      or lights that become more like orbs. For example the bumper/credit
>>      for Focus Features is a focus pull of several different color lights.
>>      However, Bokeh can be used to described all blur/haze in out of focus
>>      areas of an image.
>>
>> Me:  bokeh is not a fancy term. it's something real and transcends "stuff
>> out
>>      of focus". it's "how appealing stuff out of focus is". don't
>> deprecate
>>      what 100 years of photography learned before we switched from film to
>>      digital sensors
>>
>> Son: I am not saying it isn't a valuable part of creative composition of
>> an
>>      image. I just feel that the word is not commonly used to describe
>>      shallow depth of field in everyday discussion of imagery. Making it
>> to me,
>>      a fancy word of academia that most only know as out of focus
>> highlights and
>>      not a general description of lack of focus in photography. The word I
>> feel
>>      no longer is used properly or often enough to make it as relevant
>> anymore.
>>
>> Me:  I hope bokeh isn't commonly used to describe "shallow depth of
>> field",
>>      because that would be incorrect usage. It's used to describe how
>> *pleasant*
>>      out-of-focus things look and is as relevant as ever as a key
>> attribute of
>>      a "good" lens - it isn't a "fancy word of academia" and that it isn't
>>      "used properly or often enough to make it relevant" reflects more on
>> who
>>      you're talking about it with: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh
>>
>> Dana K6JQ
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