hi judy, thanks for that, i did try that but no joy. i forgot to say that o n switching off the recording, i got the message wright error. steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy W To: ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: RE: problem with ptr1 disc Steve, this probably won't work, but try using a soft cloth and gently clean the disk from the inside to the outside. Don't make circular motions. Hope you get it back! Judy -----Original Message----- From: ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of stephen.pallett Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:22 AM To: plex talk Subject: problem with ptr1 disc hi. can anyone help? i have a ptr1 and i have been using it quite successfully for ages. i recorded some audio yesterday and when switching off the unit said, improper or damaged disc. i was very annoyed as the disk already has about 10 hours of audio recorded on it. is there any chance of recovering the audio or have i lost it. if i reload the disc i get the same message. hope someone can help, smile. steve. Why not visit www.tafn.org.uk it may be just what you are looking for!