[projectaon] Re: Outstanding Errata Sprint (Week 2)
- From: Jonathan Blake <jonathan.blake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:03:32 -0700
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Simon Osborne <outspaced@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> The Masters of Darkness
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> (ft) 75: [jc: If you do not possess another magical weapon (i.e.
> Magic Spear, Dagger of Vashna, Jewelled Mace), you are not able to inflict
> any damage to Kraagenskûl. Ignore any ENDURANCE points lost by Kraagenskûl
> during the first three rounds of combat.]
> [dd: Disagree. Only the DoV can hurt him - normal magic weapons won't do
> against a Darklord. [Maybe] you should get a +7 CS bonus from the DoV like
> in Section 171.]
> [tw: IIRC there's text in the Magnamund Companion and elsewhere that the
> Sommerswerd is the ""only"" weapon capable of harming a Darklord - clearly
> the Darklord's own personal weapons seems to share that power as well, but
> not just any old magical weapon - the original poster is getting confused
> with the ability to injure a helghast.]
>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/12tmod/sect75.htm>
Agreed that it should only be the DoV (assuming - haven't checked -
that we can't reach here with Helshezag, not just that we chose not to
use it).
Also, we should probably move the existing footnote marker to after
the period. Currently, it looks like you should turn to Section 2405!
> (ft) 102, 114: [jc: Should Jewelled Mace grant here +5 CS bonus?
> (also in sect. 114)]
> [so: "It is unclear whether a Jewelled Mace should add 5 to your COMBAT
> SKILL here (cf. Shadow on the Sand Section 253)."]
>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/12tmod/sect102.htm>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/12tmod/sect114.htm>
What about Sommerswerd et al.? Why single out the Jewelled Mace?
> (ft) 230: [JD: should we create a footnote reminding players not to
> forget the +7 CS bonus of either Helshezag or the Dagger of Vashna when used
> against a Darklord?] [SO: Actually, cf Section 88: "The power of the weapon
> you wield is greatly intensified when used within the walls of Helgedad.
> Owing to its increased power, add 12 to your COMBAT SKILL for the duration
> of the fight. Darklord Gnaag is immune to Mindblast (but not Psi-surge)."
> That may be why Joe didn't add any bonus for using DoV/Helshezag to the
> combat against Taktaal—he wanted to save the surprise. It is inconsistent
> ruling, though. The +7CS for fighting a Darklord might make more sense here
> than the full +12.]
> [dv: As stated in the Errata, there's inconsistency in the rules: Using the
> Dagger of Vashna against Taktaal - should it be +7CS or +12CS? It is
> possible for player to avoid fighting Kraagenskul with DoV so he wouldn't
> even know about the +7CS bonus (while it's explicitly stated when
> 'acquiring' the Helshezag). So maybe it could be footnoted with "Depending
> on you interpretations of the rules..." or to make things consistent section
> 88 could be changed so it states: "The power of the weapon you wield is
> greatly intensified when used against the Archlord (of Helgedad/of the
> Darklands)." Though it would probably mean some original text has to be
> changed.]
>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/12tmod/sect230.htm>
Agreed that we should footnote here. I think most readers would rather
have the +7CS or +12CS than the surprise. :)
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> The Legacy of Vashna
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> (ft) 36, 103, 118, 142, 206, 229, 284, 305: [jc: Should Jewelled Mace
> grant +5 CS bonus against Vortexi?]
> [so: "It is unclear whether a Jewelled Mace should add 5 to your COMBAT
> SKILL here (cf. Shadow on the Sand Section 253)."]
>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/16tlov/sect36.htm>
Why not other magical weapons? I think the Sommerswerd gets a lot of
play because it is more than a simple enchanted weapon and it's not an
evil weapon either. It's hard to justify the Jewelled Mace here, even
for a footnote, without mentioning other magical weapons too.
> (ft) 57, 92, 157: [jc: If you possess Helshezag--the sword of Darklord
> Kraagenskûl, it is now destroyed, obliterated by the power of the
> Deathstaff, and you must erase it from your Special Items list (section 94
> also implies a loss of 5 EP in this incident).]
>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/16tlov/sect57.htm>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/16tlov/sect92.htm>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/16tlov/sect157.htm>
>
> (cf. <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/16tlov/sect94.htm>)
Agreed.
> (ft) 92: [DED: The Deathstaff should surely be recorded on the
> players' Action Chart as a Special Item? The implication being that if they
> already carry 12 Special Items, they must discard one in favour of the
> Deathstaff?]
>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/16tlov/sect92.htm>
It should probably be recorded as a Special Item, but despite its
"unnatural" weight, should an item be discarded? I tend to think so.
> (??) 345: [DED: If you fight using the Deathstaff, are you able to get
> a Weaponskill/Weaponmastery/GrandWeaponmastery bonus for it? (I'm guessing
> it might possibly count as a Quarterstaff? Or a Mace? Is there a vignette of
> it in the paperback edition above section 13? in which case it looks like a
> Quartersrtaff. Or is this a special Naar-developed weapon which no Kai Lord
> would have skill in using?) If not, then I think she should have a footnote
> to remind the reader that although they get +10CS from the staff, they
> should not get a weaponmastery bonus. (In practical terms, this would mean
> the player would only get +5CS from the deathstaff. if they lost their
> weaponmastery bonus for their normal weapon). I’d recommend a footnote of:
> “The Deathstaff appears to be similar in form to a Quarterstaff, so players
> may also wish to apply the appropriate Weaponmastery bonus when using it in
> combat” or something like that.]
>
> <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml/lw/16tlov/sect345.htm>
I'd feel OK with a footnote suggesting a bonus for skill with the Quarterstaff.
--
Jon
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