FYI that bonus you have to pay back if you leave early - i have one of those with midway too midway may soon be warner bros and make it all moot but yeah... they got me too :P On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Matthew Freeland <mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Yeah I LOVE steam, but they still have problems with steam games that are > heavily packed with DRMs like Bioshock. > > No I haven't played the remake but I love the original Tecmo bowl, and the > John Madden series on the Genesis/SNES... I can't remember which one but it > was a ton of fun to intentionally injure players and have the ambulance > drive on to the field and run over everyone, hehehehe > > And yeah, EA games finally chilled the fuck out of their DRMs after > hundreds of thousands of people boycotted the game, and gave it nasty > reviews on amazon (They had it down to 2 stars at one point) until EA games > made the announcement they were shipping their future games virtually DRM > free... as well they released alot of their games onto Steam. They still > suck though. > > One of the big reasons I hate them was their Overtime denial for employees > a few years ago. They were working people on one of the Lord of the Rings > games 100+ hours a week on salary and denying them overtime. In addition to > that, people were brought on to work specifically with retainers in their > contracts of 2-5k and at the early termination of a contract to work for EA > games you were required to pay the retainer back. Like a really fucked up > security deposit. So people who wanted to quit working 100+ hour weeks at 40 > hour pay had to get loans or save up money to quit. THAT is fucked up. > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:19 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> hey have you played the tecmo bowl remake for the DS that came out >> recently? >> i read about the DRM stuff from EA, pretty ridiculous... wasn't there a >> huge fiasco w/ spore over this? >> >> i love the Valve approach w/ steam... its so nice to never worry about >> disks and codes again. I noticed blizzard is doing the same thing but >> unfortunately i cannot find my starcraft code... >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Matthew Freeland <mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx >> > wrote: >> >>> Yeah I pretty much said Fuck EA for life about 5 years ago. Not only do >>> the abuse the shit out of their developers they produce crappy games and the >>> only lifeline they have these days is their sports games. Don't get me >>> started on that, I'd rather whip out my nintendo and play Tecmo Bowl than >>> play most of the new football games. :P >>> >>> Also EA games pisses me off hard because they were probably the biggest >>> adapter of really oppressive and vicious DRM.. They have since backed down >>> but when I got Sim City 4 I think it was a few years ago I went to install >>> it and It wouldn't let me install it unless I had an EA Games Passport and >>> went to sign me up for one and I was like 'Well fuck that shit!'. Ultimately >>> I went and set up one of the stupid accounts and then I couldn't install the >>> game because their authentication server was down and assumed I was pirating >>> it. Fuck EA. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>> >>>> im not sure who DOES like ea cause they are crappy to their dev's too. >>>> >>>> maybe retailers like them? :P >>>> >>>> i heard EA was origionally started cause so many game companies treated >>>> their employees like crap and required long hours.... now they are by far >>>> the worst offenders. >>>> >>>> damn man fuck those guys :P >>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> wow, ok so for NCAA football this year they stripped a bunch of >>>>> features THAT ALREADY EXISTED IN THE GAME and then re-added them as >>>>> microtransactions you have to pay real $ for... wow, that is fucking >>>>> ridiculous. seriously, people already pay 60 dollars for a game, then >>>>> they >>>>> have to pay extra for content that was already in the game for free last >>>>> year? You know, for games like fallout 3, etc. i am cool w/ downloadable >>>>> content but the thing about sports games is they basically just sell you a >>>>> roster update every year, and the 360/ps3 versions are STILL catching up >>>>> on >>>>> features that existed in ps2/xbox... what else makes it FUCKING TERRIBLE >>>>> is >>>>> that EA paid a ton of money to buy exclusive rights to all major football >>>>> associations, college, pro, even canadian league and arena league, so if >>>>> you >>>>> want to play a football game on a console, you are forced to pay for an EA >>>>> product. >>>>> i buy maybe 3-4 games a year tops (this year i have purchased Zero, >>>>> unless you count orange box for pc for 10 bucks) -- EA may have just >>>>> earned >>>>> a special place on my "never give these assholes my money no matter how >>>>> good >>>>> their game might be" list. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >