[project1dev] Re: wtf EA
- From: Matthew Freeland <mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:55:35 -0700
It's such a bastardly way to force people to stay working for you. Managers
who use that trick need to be dragged screaming from their homes down to the
gallows and beaten like a pinata until they bleed to death, IMO.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> FYI that bonus you have to pay back if you leave early - i have one of
> those with midway too
>
> midway may soon be warner bros and make it all moot but yeah... they got me
> too :P
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Matthew Freeland
> <mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Yeah I LOVE steam, but they still have problems with steam games that are
>> heavily packed with DRMs like Bioshock.
>>
>> No I haven't played the remake but I love the original Tecmo bowl, and the
>> John Madden series on the Genesis/SNES... I can't remember which one but it
>> was a ton of fun to intentionally injure players and have the ambulance
>> drive on to the field and run over everyone, hehehehe
>>
>> And yeah, EA games finally chilled the fuck out of their DRMs after
>> hundreds of thousands of people boycotted the game, and gave it nasty
>> reviews on amazon (They had it down to 2 stars at one point) until EA games
>> made the announcement they were shipping their future games virtually DRM
>> free... as well they released alot of their games onto Steam. They still
>> suck though.
>>
>> One of the big reasons I hate them was their Overtime denial for employees
>> a few years ago. They were working people on one of the Lord of the Rings
>> games 100+ hours a week on salary and denying them overtime. In addition to
>> that, people were brought on to work specifically with retainers in their
>> contracts of 2-5k and at the early termination of a contract to work for EA
>> games you were required to pay the retainer back. Like a really fucked up
>> security deposit. So people who wanted to quit working 100+ hour weeks at 40
>> hour pay had to get loans or save up money to quit. THAT is fucked up.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:19 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> hey have you played the tecmo bowl remake for the DS that came out
>>> recently?
>>> i read about the DRM stuff from EA, pretty ridiculous... wasn't there a
>>> huge fiasco w/ spore over this?
>>>
>>> i love the Valve approach w/ steam... its so nice to never worry about
>>> disks and codes again. I noticed blizzard is doing the same thing but
>>> unfortunately i cannot find my starcraft code...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Matthew Freeland <
>>> mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah I pretty much said Fuck EA for life about 5 years ago. Not only do
>>>> the abuse the shit out of their developers they produce crappy games and
>>>> the
>>>> only lifeline they have these days is their sports games. Don't get me
>>>> started on that, I'd rather whip out my nintendo and play Tecmo Bowl than
>>>> play most of the new football games. :P
>>>>
>>>> Also EA games pisses me off hard because they were probably the biggest
>>>> adapter of really oppressive and vicious DRM.. They have since backed down
>>>> but when I got Sim City 4 I think it was a few years ago I went to install
>>>> it and It wouldn't let me install it unless I had an EA Games Passport and
>>>> went to sign me up for one and I was like 'Well fuck that shit!'.
>>>> Ultimately
>>>> I went and set up one of the stupid accounts and then I couldn't install
>>>> the
>>>> game because their authentication server was down and assumed I was
>>>> pirating
>>>> it. Fuck EA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> im not sure who DOES like ea cause they are crappy to their dev's too.
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe retailers like them? :P
>>>>>
>>>>> i heard EA was origionally started cause so many game companies treated
>>>>> their employees like crap and required long hours.... now they are by far
>>>>> the worst offenders.
>>>>>
>>>>> damn man fuck those guys :P
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> wow, ok so for NCAA football this year they stripped a bunch of
>>>>>> features THAT ALREADY EXISTED IN THE GAME and then re-added them as
>>>>>> microtransactions you have to pay real $ for... wow, that is fucking
>>>>>> ridiculous. seriously, people already pay 60 dollars for a game, then
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> have to pay extra for content that was already in the game for free last
>>>>>> year? You know, for games like fallout 3, etc. i am cool w/ downloadable
>>>>>> content but the thing about sports games is they basically just sell you
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> roster update every year, and the 360/ps3 versions are STILL catching up
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> features that existed in ps2/xbox... what else makes it FUCKING TERRIBLE
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> that EA paid a ton of money to buy exclusive rights to all major football
>>>>>> associations, college, pro, even canadian league and arena league, so if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> want to play a football game on a console, you are forced to pay for an
>>>>>> EA
>>>>>> product.
>>>>>> i buy maybe 3-4 games a year tops (this year i have purchased Zero,
>>>>>> unless you count orange box for pc for 10 bucks) -- EA may have just
>>>>>> earned
>>>>>> a special place on my "never give these assholes my money no matter how
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> their game might be" list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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