Hi Rick, Where is your tutorial? Jim Jim Homme, Usability Services, Phone: 412-544-1810 Skype: jim.homme Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog. Discuss accessibility here. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:43 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: urgent: help required, vs.net 2008 Hi: First, Brent, have you read my tutorials on the subject of positioning Winforms controls manually and using the Layout Table control? As for VS 2008 accessibility, it is almost identical to VS 2005 from an accessibility standpoint. I use Windoweyes and have found work-arounds for anything that was not particularly accessible under that IDE. Like VS 2005 it depends on the settings in the Options Menu Tree under the Tools menu bar that determine how the IDE will act with a screen reader. If you are familiar with 2005 you should have no problems with 2008 in my opinion. I can not speek to the JAWS scripts since I do not use them. Working in VB.net, VWD and Sql Server are what I do mostely and use most of the built-in UI controls, Data and Formatting Wizards and even some of the Designers with no problems. I have used the various Tool Bar controls in VB.net, mentioned in the other post, The Table Designer for my Databases and advanced XSD and Configuration processing, and, well if you have other questions just ask since there are over 1,000 diferent windows and what not in the IDE providing many, many development functions. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:30 PM Subject: Re: urgent: help required, vs.net 2008 > Are there good blind-friendly tutorials out there for it like there were > in the days of 2003? I know that when I was in a training program for the > blind, this computer guy thought it might be fun, and he was kind of > right, to play with that old tutorial on making a menu bar, maybe it did > one other little thing, but things aren't at all the same any more trying > to follow any of that old stuff. I tried following it with 05 express > since I didn't have 2003 like that school did, not only did the scripts > not work real well, everything's different about it. Is this a good > language to start with, assuming I don't really want to deal with bogging > my machine down with virtual machines and Orca with crappy sound that > locks up in them a lot? I never got the whole pixel coordinate thing how > much space each thing takes up, maybe there's an automatic mode by now? > > Finally, will I mess up my system uninstalling 2005 and grabbing 08? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sameer manohtra" <sameermanohtra@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "programmingblind" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:26 PM > Subject: urgent: help required, vs.net 2008 > > >> hey everyone, >> writing here after long, hope you all are in great wellbeings. >> >> folks, due to some reasons, i'd have to upgrade to vs.net 2008 now. >> i have been successfully working with c# and vb.net 2005, but due to >> some compulsions i'd have to switch it to vs.net 2008. >> i have never worked with it before, those who have worked, are >> requested to kindly guide me, if it is accessible or not? >> can i independently work on it like 2005? >> what are the things which are different in terms of accessibility? >> do we have any jaws script for the vs.net 2008? >> >> whatever else that one should take care while switching it, and >> working with vs.net 2008. >> kindly tell me, i'll be greatful. >> >> an early response is highly appreciated, kindly help this novis. >> >> sameer manohtra. >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. The views expressed in this e-mail message do not necessarily represent the views of Highmark Inc., its subsidiaries, or affiliates. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind