Re: looking for books... still
- From: Varun Khosla <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:54:52 +0530
You can get it from prentis hall. the book is in .chm format (The most
accessible of formats I find, as you can quickly navigate around the
content). You can also download it from pdfchm.com if you have an
account.
On 11/6/09, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
> I appriciate the title; is there an accessible copy ov this book sold
> somewhere?
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Varun Khosla wrote:
>
>> Hi Tyler,
>> You can try operating system design and implementation by Andrew S.
>> Tanenbaum and Albert S. Woodhull. The book is (as far as I know) the
>> only one that discusses os concepts with code examples implemented in
>> a real os called Minix. You can go to www.minix3.org for the source
>> code and installation iso for minix os. I don't know of any screen
>> reader for minix yet, but as it supports many APIs and is made similar
>> to that of unix, porting one to minix shouldn't be dificult.
>>
>> P.S. If you get to know additional interesting information/tools that
>> may be helpful in this regard, do post to the list - I'm also studying
>> this subject in the current cem.
>>
>> -----
>> Varun
>>
>> On 11/3/09, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> hello laura,
>>> I have a pretty good understanding on lists and queues and such. My
>>> goal now is to learn more about the inner workings; perhaps by
>>> testing
>>> a os and making changes as I learn more to speed it up and improving
>>> performance. If I can find the books, it would give me a nice
>>> introduction and show me what I don't know so I can learn that, and
>>> teach me along the way.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:13 PM, qubit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ty --
>>>> Perhaps you could check what textbooks are currently used at your
>>>> local
>>>> college or university for a class on these subjects.
>>>> But before tackling subjects of this magnitude you should really
>>>> have a very
>>>> good understanding of data structures and objects -- what they are
>>>> and how
>>>> to implement them in your favorite language.
>>>> I think you already have some exposure to different types of
>>>> languages from
>>>> the various projects you have tinkered on, and looking at the fruit
>>>> basket
>>>> samples.
>>>> But when you get into OS and compiler construction, you really need
>>>> a good
>>>> grounding of experience with the basics.
>>>> The only thing about this that has changed since I was in school in
>>>> the 80s
>>>> is that OO programming has emerged in a big way. But when you are
>>>> talking
>>>> about actually writing a little operating system, you are talking
>>>> about low
>>>> level details and data manipulation below the level of objects.
>>>> Hence the
>>>> old fashioned constructs like stacks and queues and locks are
>>>> important.
>>>> Sorry I'm not much more help.
>>>> You probably noticed on program-l the note that safari books have
>>>> suddenly
>>>> become inaccessible to persons using screen readers. And they don't
>>>> sound
>>>> promising about fixing it. Perhaps you should join in the protest
>>>> to get a
>>>> blind friendly site back.
>>>> Happy hacking.
>>>> --le
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:42 PM
>>>> Subject: looking for books... still
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Previously I wrote in asking about some books on OS and compiler
>>>> design; I still have yet to find anything. I did a bit of
>>>> searching on
>>>> bookshare but didn't find anything; I would just pay the $50 for the
>>>> subscription for those. Is there any other way I could find what I
>>>> need? Help would really be appriciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>
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