Re: looking for books... still

  • From: Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:01:56 -0700

awesome, thanks. I'll check. wasn't aware prentice had accessible books.
On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Varun Khosla wrote:

You can get it from prentis hall. the book is in .chm format (The most
accessible of formats I find, as you can quickly navigate around the
content). You can also download it from pdfchm.com if you have an
account.



On 11/6/09, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello,
I appriciate the title; is there an accessible copy ov this book sold
somewhere?

On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Varun Khosla wrote:

Hi Tyler,
You can try operating system design and implementation by Andrew S.
Tanenbaum and Albert S. Woodhull. The book is (as far as I know) the
only one that discusses os concepts with code examples implemented in
a real os called Minix. You can go to www.minix3.org for the source
code and installation iso for minix os. I don't know of any screen
reader for minix yet, but as it supports many APIs and is made similar
to that of unix, porting one to minix shouldn't be dificult.

P.S. If you get to know additional interesting information/tools that may be helpful in this regard, do post to the list - I'm also studying
this subject  in the current cem.

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Varun

On 11/3/09, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hello laura,
I have a pretty good understanding on lists and queues and such. My
goal now is to learn more about the inner workings; perhaps by
testing
a os and making changes as I learn more to speed it up and improving
performance. If I can find the books, it would give me a nice
introduction and show me what I don't know so I can learn that, and
teach me along the way.

Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield

On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:13 PM, qubit wrote:

Hi Ty --
Perhaps you could check what textbooks are currently used at your
local
college or university for a class on these subjects.
But before tackling subjects of this magnitude you should really
have a very
good understanding of data structures and objects -- what they are
and how
to implement them in your favorite language.
I think you already have some exposure to different types of
languages from
the various projects you have tinkered on, and looking at the fruit
basket
samples.
But when you get into OS and compiler construction, you really need
a good
grounding of experience with the basics.
The only thing about this that has changed since I was in school in
the 80s
is that OO programming has emerged in a big way.  But when you are
talking
about actually writing a little operating system, you are talking
about low
level details and data manipulation below the level of objects.
Hence the
old fashioned constructs like stacks and queues and locks are
important.
Sorry I'm not much more help.
You probably noticed on program-l the note that safari books have
suddenly
become inaccessible to persons using screen readers. And they don't
sound
promising about fixing it.  Perhaps you should join in the protest
to get a
blind friendly site back.
Happy hacking.
--le




----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: looking for books... still


Hello,
Previously I wrote in asking about some books on OS and compiler
design; I still have yet to find anything. I did a bit of
searching on
bookshare but didn't find anything; I would just pay the $50 for the
subscription for those. Is there any other way I could find what I
need? Help would really be appriciated.

Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield

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