Re: looking for books... still
- From: Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:08:25 -0700
Tyler, u r a student, r u not? If so, Bookshare gives free student accounts.
On 11/9/09, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> awesome, thanks. I'll check. wasn't aware prentice had accessible books.
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Varun Khosla wrote:
>
>> You can get it from prentis hall. the book is in .chm format (The most
>> accessible of formats I find, as you can quickly navigate around the
>> content). You can also download it from pdfchm.com if you have an
>> account.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/09, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I appriciate the title; is there an accessible copy ov this book sold
>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Varun Khosla wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>> You can try operating system design and implementation by Andrew S.
>>>> Tanenbaum and Albert S. Woodhull. The book is (as far as I know) the
>>>> only one that discusses os concepts with code examples implemented
>>>> in
>>>> a real os called Minix. You can go to www.minix3.org for the source
>>>> code and installation iso for minix os. I don't know of any screen
>>>> reader for minix yet, but as it supports many APIs and is made
>>>> similar
>>>> to that of unix, porting one to minix shouldn't be dificult.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. If you get to know additional interesting information/tools
>>>> that
>>>> may be helpful in this regard, do post to the list - I'm also
>>>> studying
>>>> this subject in the current cem.
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Varun
>>>>
>>>> On 11/3/09, Tyler Littlefield <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> hello laura,
>>>>> I have a pretty good understanding on lists and queues and such. My
>>>>> goal now is to learn more about the inner workings; perhaps by
>>>>> testing
>>>>> a os and making changes as I learn more to speed it up and
>>>>> improving
>>>>> performance. If I can find the books, it would give me a nice
>>>>> introduction and show me what I don't know so I can learn that, and
>>>>> teach me along the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:13 PM, qubit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ty --
>>>>>> Perhaps you could check what textbooks are currently used at your
>>>>>> local
>>>>>> college or university for a class on these subjects.
>>>>>> But before tackling subjects of this magnitude you should really
>>>>>> have a very
>>>>>> good understanding of data structures and objects -- what they are
>>>>>> and how
>>>>>> to implement them in your favorite language.
>>>>>> I think you already have some exposure to different types of
>>>>>> languages from
>>>>>> the various projects you have tinkered on, and looking at the
>>>>>> fruit
>>>>>> basket
>>>>>> samples.
>>>>>> But when you get into OS and compiler construction, you really
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> a good
>>>>>> grounding of experience with the basics.
>>>>>> The only thing about this that has changed since I was in school
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the 80s
>>>>>> is that OO programming has emerged in a big way. But when you are
>>>>>> talking
>>>>>> about actually writing a little operating system, you are talking
>>>>>> about low
>>>>>> level details and data manipulation below the level of objects.
>>>>>> Hence the
>>>>>> old fashioned constructs like stacks and queues and locks are
>>>>>> important.
>>>>>> Sorry I'm not much more help.
>>>>>> You probably noticed on program-l the note that safari books have
>>>>>> suddenly
>>>>>> become inaccessible to persons using screen readers. And they
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> promising about fixing it. Perhaps you should join in the protest
>>>>>> to get a
>>>>>> blind friendly site back.
>>>>>> Happy hacking.
>>>>>> --le
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: looking for books... still
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> Previously I wrote in asking about some books on OS and compiler
>>>>>> design; I still have yet to find anything. I did a bit of
>>>>>> searching on
>>>>>> bookshare but didn't find anything; I would just pay the $50 for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> subscription for those. Is there any other way I could find what I
>>>>>> need? Help would really be appriciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>>>
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