RE: jaws and seven: accessibility, settings, etc.

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:53:50 -0400

Boxer just came out with boxer 14 and he takes all suggestions from blind
users.  In the past things like help didn't work but now he uses the windows
help system and there are a few settings you have to change because while he
makes sure that its blind friendly he does set some default settings that
make the editor more visually appealing.  For example you need to switch
from his pretty file dialog to the classic file dialog just to make it
easier with speech.  I found that 14 needed less tweaking than any previous
versions though.  There is also a demo version so you can try it out first.

http://www.boxersoftware.com 

Its $59 so it's not too expensive and all upgrades are in around $29.  I
normally get an upgrade every 1 or 2 years.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:05 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws and seven: accessibility, settings, etc.

What editor do you use? I've been looking for something better
especially since JAWS and notepad break under 7, and due to the
Cygwin problem I can't just use ed.

Ken Perry wrote:
> WinSCP sucks.  I use expand drive which makes an sftp link into a drive so
> you can use it like a regular drive.  It's still not the same I do use
> secure crt and Expand drive but I can't stand not having it local where
the
> access is instantaneous.  Like I said I understand that there are other
ways
> of doing things but I love having the cygwin tools on the windows box so
if
> I have to search for stuff the power of Linux is just there.  I am making
do
> but I am hoping that FS does get this fixed.  If I could find a way to
make
> nvda come on when at the shell prompt then shut up outside and jaws come
on
> for everything else that is what I would do.  I would use NVDA totally if
it
> worked with my editor and visual studio but it is rather sad.  I would use
> system access totally but its slow as crap even with eloquence so I am
stuck
> with Jaws and making it work.
> 
> Ken
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
> Littlefield
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:04 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: jaws and seven: accessibility, settings, etc.
> 
> Ken,
> I use crt and that too, what I use is WINScp to edit, when you save it
just
> saves to the linux box. It has issues sometimes with passwords, but if you
> use a ppk setup it's not hard at all, and I figure you're probably using
> that anyway.
>               Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
>       http://tds-solutions.net
>       Twitter: sorressean
> 
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
> 
>>
>> I have dropped cygwin for the time and us vmware player but it's not the
>> same.  The orca is just slow as snails and I have yet to put speakup on.
> I
>> have been thinking of using emacspeak till Jaws gets cygwin fixed but the
>> reason I want to use cygwin is so I can use my favorite editor in
windows.
>> If boxer was in Linux and Linux x with orca was faster I would be gone
> from
>> windows.  
>>
>> Now with that all said FS is working on the problem so I am hoping they
> get
>> it fixed quickly for now I am using Secure crt and expand drive to allow
> me
>> to do what I used to do with cygwin.  I have a vm ware machine running 3
>> Linux boxes and secure crt and expand drive but man I miss cygwin.
>>
>> Ken  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 2:27 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: jaws and seven:accessibility, settings, etc.
>>
>> Sorry!
>> I actually have the same problem and it's a bit annoying.
>> I've recently dropped cygwin and use a virtual linux machine instead, but
>> haven't tried the virtual linux machine inside Win7 yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
>> Sent: 13. mars 2010 20:05
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: jaws and seven:accessibility, settings, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Everything does not work out of the box In fact FS is looking into the
>> problems I am having with cmd.exe and cygwin and any command line type
>> program if you use ssh to get to unix boxes stick with vista and xp right
>> now.  That or your going to have to put up with at best a lot of extra
>> echoed crap.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:27 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: jaws and seven:accessibility, settings, etc.
>>
>> Everything works out of the box.
>> I'm running Windows 7 64-bit and JAWS 11.
>>
>> The only change I've done is to set Windows Explorer to show Details view
>> instead of the default tiles.
>> Then turn off grouping by going to the view menu and group by and press
>> enter on None.
>>
>> Yep, that's it!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>> Littlefield
>> Sent: 13. mars 2010 17:04
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: jaws and seven:accessibility, settings, etc.
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I'm debating putting windows seven on my laptop, and was going to get
jaws
>> 11. I know in xp there were a few settings that made things work better,
> is
>> it the same for seven? What sorts of things need to be set for
>> accessibility?
>>              Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>>      http://tds-solutions.net
>>      Twitter: sorressean
>>
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