gotcha. I'll get it anyway. once I switch to 64 bit, that will change. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:11 PM Subject: RE: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?
It can see it it can't use it there is a difference. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler Littlefield Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:41 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? cool. but it can see all 4 gb? I plan on going 64 bit when/if fs gets done being lazy and makes jaws 64 bit too. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: RE: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?Not correct the truth is it can see 4 gb it can only address 3 gb so if you were sold a 4 gb you got robbed. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:57 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? Yeah, a 32-bit operating system can address up to 4Gb of RAM so you could allocate plenty of that to a VM. I use virtualbox and run Ubuntu inside it no probs.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?hmm. I've been worried about vista. I just found a system that looks awesome for $500, and it has 4 gb of ram. Will the other 2 gb be able to be used if I say run linux under vmware or something? Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" <huntp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?Hi, If I were you my main concern would be finding a laptop downgradable to XP. I doubt you'll find one these days that comes with it pre-installed though - Vista is ubiquitous now and it's a right pain in the ass.I've bought two new machines in the past 12 months - an HP laptop and an HP desktop and they both came with Vista Home Premium and the quality ofJAWS's support for it is well below that of XP. Even simple tasks like reading back and forth through text files (regardless of the editor beingused) causes problems such as the previous line being read instead of thenext one when you down-arrow and then repeated "blank" being spoken whenyou arrow back upwards until you refresh the screen. Also the commandprompt isn't read properly under Vista - as soon as the window starts toscroll JAWS starts reading random lines from the window under the commandprompt! It doesn't read some of the dialogues in VS 2005 that it does under XP either. These are just a few examples. I've just bought a new laptop and my main priority was making sure it supported XP. AMD processors are just as good as Intel ones and they generally have slower clock speeds but are more efficient so compare favorably with Intel chips that are clocked quicker. Paul----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?that answers a lot.I've seen amd processors out there, and hear they're really good; theirspeed calculations look different from pentium though. How is that measured? Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?Hello,your operating system is not a trial!!!!! If you want XP, you're goingto have to request it from the manufacturers. I would go for a 64-bit machine with a 32-bit OS personally. At least 2 gigs of ram, but Iwould up it. As big a hard drive you can get, at least a core 2 duo oran AMD x2 processor, at least 256 MB video card dedicated memory. Thanks Nimer J Nimer M. Jaber The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review,retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any actionin reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender via reply e-mail, and delete the material from any computer. Website: http://www.empowertheblind.org Phone: (720) (251-4530) Tyler Littlefield wrote:Hello list, I'm in the market for a new laptop. My max price range is about 1100. I'm not totally sure what I need; ofcourse I'm looking for the best deal, but I also need something that Jaws will work on. From what I've heard, jaws does not work on 64-bit vista; are there still laptops shipped with 32 bit, or even better XP? I know a lot of the computer companies started sending everything withvista.I've also seen things like 60 day trials and etc on vista; am I goingto have to purchase a full copy after I get the laptop? 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