Not correct the truth is it can see 4 gb it can only address 3 gb so if you were sold a 4 gb you got robbed. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:57 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? Yeah, a 32-bit operating system can address up to 4Gb of RAM so you could allocate plenty of that to a VM. I use virtualbox and run Ubuntu inside it no probs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? > hmm. I've been worried about vista. I just found a system that looks > awesome for $500, and it has 4 gb of ram. Will the other 2 gb be able to > be used if I say run linux under vmware or something? > > > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield > email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > web: tysdomain-com > Visit for quality software and web design. > skype: st8amnd2005 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hunt" <huntp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? > > >> Hi, >> >> If I were you my main concern would be finding a laptop downgradable to >> XP. I doubt you'll find one these days that comes with it pre-installed >> though - Vista is ubiquitous now and it's a right pain in the ass. >> >> I've bought two new machines in the past 12 months - an HP laptop and an >> HP desktop and they both came with Vista Home Premium and the quality of >> JAWS's support for it is well below that of XP. Even simple tasks like >> reading back and forth through text files (regardless of the editor being >> used) causes problems such as the previous line being read instead of the >> next one when you down-arrow and then repeated "blank" being spoken when >> you arrow back upwards until you refresh the screen. Also the command >> prompt isn't read properly under Vista - as soon as the window starts to >> scroll JAWS starts reading random lines from the window under the command >> prompt! It doesn't read some of the dialogues in VS 2005 that it does >> under XP either. These are just a few examples. >> >> I've just bought a new laptop and my main priority was making sure it >> supported XP. >> >> AMD processors are just as good as Intel ones and they generally have >> slower clock speeds but are more efficient so compare favorably with >> Intel chips that are clocked quicker. >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:35 PM >> Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? >> >> >>> that answers a lot. >>> I've seen amd processors out there, and hear they're really good; their >>> speed calculations look different from pentium though. How is that >>> measured? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tyler Littlefield >>> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> web: tysdomain-com >>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:26 AM >>> Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> your operating system is not a trial!!!!! If you want XP, you're going >>>> to have to request it from the manufacturers. I would go for a 64-bit >>>> machine with a 32-bit OS personally. At least 2 gigs of ram, but I >>>> would up it. As big a hard drive you can get, at least a core 2 duo or >>>> an AMD x2 processor, at least 256 MB video card dedicated memory. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Nimer J >>>> >>>> Nimer M. Jaber >>>> >>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity >>>> to which it >>>> is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. >>>> Any review, >>>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action >>>> in reliance >>>> upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended >>>> recipient is >>>> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender >>>> via reply e-mail, and delete the >>>> material from any computer. >>>> >>>> Website: >>>> http://www.empowertheblind.org >>>> Phone: >>>> (720) (251-4530) >>>> >>>> >>>> Tyler Littlefield wrote: >>>>> Hello list, >>>>> I'm in the market for a new laptop. >>>>> My max price range is about 1100. I'm not totally sure what I need; of >>>>> course I'm looking for the best deal, but I also need something that >>>>> Jaws will work on. >>>>> From what I've heard, jaws does not work on 64-bit vista; are there >>>>> still laptops shipped with 32 bit, or even better XP? >>>>> I know a lot of the computer companies started sending everything with >>>>> vista. >>>>> I've also seen things like 60 day trials and etc on vista; am I going >>>>> to have to purchase a full copy after I get the laptop? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Tyler Littlefield >>>>> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> web: tysdomain-com >>>>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>>>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >>> >>> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind