Exactly what I had in mind. How did you go about copying all of your locally stored messages to gmail?
My understanding is that there arre no folders as such on the gmail server, just different views of archived messages using Tags. I was considering selecting all messages in a particular local folder and giving them all a Tag based on the folder name. How do I copy them to Google? Do I just empty my Inbox and then select all messages in that local folder and say copy to the gmail Inbox? I guess I would quickly archive these messages? Or do I have all of these concepts screwed up?
It is not extremely important to me at the moment, but eventually I would like my Thunderbird clients to automatically sync with Google contacts and possibly calendars. I hear that Google synchronization works very smootly between Macs. PCs, Linux, and mobile devices. Google calendars can even be accessed by the command line in Linux! Anyone know how to set up automatic synchronization between Google contacts and Thunderbird? I think a one time upload is probably very simple.
Don MarangThere is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter.
Dean Kamen -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave" <davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:21 PM To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: getting critical
I second the use of imap and a remote mail server. I went through the process a while ago of converting my local mail off of Outlook. I just skipped the conversion to another local client mail application and went straight to uploading everything to gmail. This was as easy as adding a gmail account and copying all of my messages to gmail. The beauty of this strategy had been that I could have access to my mail through gmail's imap from whatever mail client I chose. This includes my cell phone, desktop/laptop, and from the web when I'm on the move or at a friend's etc. On 9/2/10, qubit <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Don -- Thanks for your informative reply.I have one question about thunderbird: When you convert the dbx databases to whatever mailboxes thunderbird uses, does it somehow carry over the flag onthe flagged or marked messages? I have some rather large mailboxes with afew dozen marked messages in them that contain info that I want to keep. If translating the mailbox removes the marks, I will have to go and gather allthe marked messages from all the mailboxes into one central dump of messages, which would be hard to sort through. (Or I could make 50 "mark" folders for all the marked messages in each of the 50 mailboxes... -- but that would be ridiculous. I'd rather have a central dump.) Right now I'm leaning toward thunderbird.One other consideration is the address book -- what kind of contact list oraddress book does thunderbird use? Does it share info with wlmail'scontacts? I assume if it is in a proprietary format, it would have a way ofimporting and exporting to other formats, does it?Oh well. What we need is a universal mailer, like the star trek universaltranslator...*smile* I just had occasion to send someone an email in Klingon the other day... Now we're really off topic. Happy hacking. --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: Re: getting critical I am currently in the process of converting mail systems too. I amconverting from being trapped in Windows Live Mail using all POP3 and localfolders and separate inboxes and mail rules for each mailing list to Thunderbird using Tags and IMAPI am converting for several reasons. I thought my biggest reason was I wasfighting with accessibility issues with JAWS. Windows Live Mail just did not work well with JAWS 11! I managed for about the last year using JAWS 10, which worked slightly better. Over the last year, Freedom Scientific has slowly and surely improving accessibility with this application. Thelatest release finally solves almost all of the issues and JAWS 11 now workswell with Windows Live Mail. Your last statement regarding your concern about locking in your messagesinto one mail system hits home and has worried me for a long time! That isanother large factor for wanting to switch to Thunderbird. It stores itsmessages in plain text that can be imported or opened easily. Additionally, I want to read my email in Vinux as well. Thunderbird is multi-platform andis available and works the same in both environments.A final limitation of Windows Live Mail is pushing me to switch. As part of developing in the Ubuntu community, I now occasionly get secure email using Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) encryttionn and electronic signatures. Windows LiveMail is not capable of reading these emails. Thunderbird works well with these features by installing a plug in.As I am converting. I want to transition from storing my important messageslocally to keeping them on the mail server. First, I switched as many accounts as I could, like gmail, from POP3 to IMAP. POP3 downloads all email to your computer and the mail is handled locally. Normally it is deleted from the server once downloaded. IMAP synchronizes some of the folders, like Inbox, on your computer and the server. This allows you to read mail from different computers phones, or other devices. On accountsthat do not support IMAP, I set POP3 not to delete the files on the serverrwhen downloaded. This way, the messages remain on the server until you delete the message. This is not perfect, but this is a workable solution for rreading email from different devices.Strangely, live.com and hotmail.com mail support IMAP only within Windows Live mail. For some reason, Microsoft has it's own interface and protocol here so it can not provide IMAP functionality to any other email client! Ihear they might change that soon. Until then, you must use POP3 to read email from these accounts for the time being. To download Thunderbird, visit: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html or http://GetThunderbird.com Jamal has some JAWS Scripts for Thunderbird to add functionality and efficiency to Thunderbird. Many people say Thunderbird is completely accessible by itself and do not install the scrippts. I need the addedefficiency and installed his scripts. the latest version can be downloadedwith: http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr.exe I am still tweeking the settings to improve the way I read mail. If youinstall the scripts, there is a great help file that is always available in Thunderbird with Insert + h. It also comes up after installing the scripts.There are also at least two podcast on Blind Cool Tech to help set up Thunderbird. http://feeds.feedburner.com/blindcooltech I am still determining the best way to transfer / convert my storedmessages. There is no direct export / import path available. I may need tofirst export to Outlook so I can import into Thunderbird. I only have Outlook 2002 installed, which I never use. This will not be a problem coming from Outlook Express, because there is an import in Thunderbird directly from your active Outlook Express installation. I am experimenting with gmail Tags rather than local storage folders. Ifanyone has ideas how to do this or manage archiving on a server with tags,let me know. Don MarangThere is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am workingon things that matter. Dean Kamen -------------------------------------------------- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PMTo: "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "NFBnet NFBCS MailingList" <nfbcs@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Multiple recipients of NFBnet GUI-TALK Mailing List" <gui-talk@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: getting critical... as in serious, not as in criticism...*smile* Hi all -- I absolutely have to get off my old system permanently, which includes moving a good number of mail folders to a new machine.My XP box has been flaky for some months, and now is down to a paltry 9GBon the hard drive. That with loads of stuff like mp3s offloaded onto an external drive.I have used outlook express forever (since getting onto windows) -- now Ineed to choose between either thunderbird or live mail or whatever else. So could someone tell me which is more accessible? And which can convert OE .dbx mailboxes to whatever other internal format it uses? And is there a mail client that saves mail in a common format that wouldn't depend on just one program? Pushing things off thill the last minute... not a good idea. I have got my windows7 box ready except for antivirus and mail client. I need recommendations.Meanwhile, I am uninstalling and deleting programs right and left so thisold box will run. Then if it does, maybe I can procrastinate a little longer. Thanks in advance. --le __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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