Re: getting critical

  • From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 16:45:08 -0700

the most secure thing you can do is use a flash drive or a data card, both will hold information, and both are inaccessible if unplugged from the computer, smile so no access of data possible.


I have my critical data sitting right now on a card that is in the slot, but not plugged all the way in to the reader so it's not registering on the system and is unreadable, if I need the info, a slide and pop, I have my drive, then when I am done one tug and no more access, and it in its little case fits nicely into my "watch Pocket" in my jeans so it don't disappear on me.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


Yes, this is why I don't like the idea of using gmail's server to store my
email. Who knows who all has access, or could get access...? I had enough
trouble just recovering a password.  It asked me security questions that I
don't like putting out there, if for no other reason, it is personal.  But
they tend to ask specific questions that are the same as what's on other
sites with passwords, which makes it possible to take over my identity.
I know only the google admins can look at that stuff, but who knows about
the google admins?
Anyway, for the time being I have my copies.
--le


----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: getting critical


If you want to keep references from emails, I'd recommend saving them first
and then if they contain sensitive data such as registration information,
encrypt them on your local drive using a tool like AxCrypt.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting critical

Hi Don -- Thanks for your informative reply.
I have one question about thunderbird: When you convert the dbx databases to

whatever mailboxes thunderbird uses, does it somehow carry over the flag on
the flagged or marked messages? I have some rather large mailboxes with a
few dozen marked messages in them that contain info that I want to keep. If

translating the mailbox removes the marks, I will have to go and gather all
the marked messages from all the mailboxes into one central dump of
messages, which would be hard to sort through.
(Or I could make 50 "mark" folders for all the marked messages in each of
the 50 mailboxes... -- but that would be ridiculous.  I'd rather have a
central dump.)

Right now I'm leaning toward thunderbird.
One other consideration is the address book -- what kind of contact list or
address book does thunderbird use? Does it share info with wlmail's
contacts? I assume if it is in a proprietary format, it would have a way of

importing and exporting to other formats, does it?

Oh well.  What we need is a universal mailer, like the star trek universal
translator...*smile*  I just had occasion to send someone an email in
Klingon the other day...
Now we're really off topic.
Happy hacking.
--le

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


I am currently in the process of converting mail systems too.  I am
converting from being trapped in Windows Live Mail using all POP3 and local
folders and separate inboxes and mail rules for each mailing list to
Thunderbird using Tags and IMAP

I am converting for several reasons. I thought my biggest reason was I was
fighting with accessibility issues with JAWS.  Windows Live Mail just did
not work well with JAWS 11!  I managed for about the last year using JAWS
10, which worked slightly better.  Over the last year, Freedom Scientific
has slowly and surely improving accessibility with this application.  The
latest release finally solves almost all of the issues and JAWS 11 now works
well with Windows Live Mail.

Your last statement regarding your concern about locking in your messages
into one mail system hits home and has worried me for a long time! That is
another large factor for wanting to switch to Thunderbird.  It stores its
messages in plain text that can be imported or opened easily. Additionally, I want to read my email in Vinux as well. Thunderbird is multi-platform and
is available and works the same in both environments.

A final limitation of Windows Live Mail is pushing me to switch. As part of developing in the Ubuntu community, I now occasionly get secure email using Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) encryttionn and electronic signatures. Windows Live
Mail is not capable of reading these emails.  Thunderbird works well with
these features by installing a plug in.

As I am converting. I want to transition from storing my important messages
locally to keeping them on the mail server.  First, I switched as many
accounts as I could, like gmail, from POP3 to IMAP.  POP3 downloads all
email to your computer and the mail is handled locally.  Normally it is
deleted from the server once downloaded.  IMAP synchronizes some of the
folders, like Inbox, on your computer and the server.  This allows you to
read mail from different computers phones, or other devices.  On accounts
that do not support IMAP, I set POP3 not to delete the files on the serverr
when downloaded.  This way, the messages remain on the server until you
delete the message.  This is not perfect, but this is a workable solution
for rreading email from different devices.

Strangely, live.com and hotmail.com  mail support IMAP only within Windows
Live mail.  For some reason, Microsoft has it's own interface and protocol
here so it can not provide IMAP functionality to any other email client! I
hear they might change that soon. Until then, you must use POP3 to read
email from these accounts for the time being.

To download Thunderbird, visit:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html

or
http://GetThunderbird.com

Jamal has some JAWS Scripts for Thunderbird to add functionality and
efficiency to Thunderbird.  Many people say Thunderbird is completely
accessible by itself and do not install the scrippts.  I need the added
efficiency and installed his scripts. the latest version can be downloaded
with:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr.exe

I am still tweeking the settings to improve the way I read mail.  If you
install the scripts, there is a great help file that is always available in Thunderbird with Insert + h. It also comes up after installing the scripts.
There are also at least two podcast on Blind Cool Tech to help set up
Thunderbird.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/blindcooltech

I am still determining the best way to transfer / convert my stored
messages. There is no direct export / import path available. I may need to
first export to Outlook so I can import into Thunderbird.  I only have
Outlook 2002 installed, which I never use.  This  will not be a problem
coming from Outlook Express, because there is an import in Thunderbird
directly from your active Outlook Express installation.

I am experimenting with gmail Tags rather than local storage folders.  If
anyone has ideas how to do this or manage archiving on a server with tags,
let me know.

Don Marang

There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working
on things that matter.
Dean Kamen


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From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM
To: "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing
List" <nfbcs@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Multiple recipients of NFBnet GUI-TALK Mailing
List" <gui-talk@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: getting critical

... as in serious, not as in criticism...*smile*

Hi all --
I absolutely have to get off my old system permanently, which includes
moving a good number of mail folders to a new machine.
My XP box has been flaky for some months, and now is down to a paltry 9GB
on
the hard drive.
That with loads of stuff like mp3s offloaded onto an external drive.

I have used outlook express forever (since getting onto windows) -- now I
need to choose between either thunderbird or live mail or whatever else.

So could someone tell me which is more accessible? And which can convert
OE
.dbx mailboxes to whatever other internal format it uses? And is there a
mail client that saves mail in a common format that wouldn't depend on
just
one program?

Pushing things off thill the last minute... not a good idea.  I have got
my
windows7 box ready except for antivirus and mail client.  I need
recommendations.

Meanwhile, I am uninstalling and deleting programs right and left so this
old box will run.  Then if it does, maybe I can procrastinate a little
longer.

Thanks in advance.
--le

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