Re: database problems with jaws in vb
- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:59:31 +1100
HI.
okay, i understand.
so will develop the project plans, and maybe you can help out, as having
problems with calculations.
and had done some of the projects, say for chapter 3 and 4, but nothing yet
for the exercises in chapter 5, etc.
so, if that is okay, do not spend hours on it, as you have a living to make,
as i explained to you, my unique position.
and needing your help, as we have been doing.
so will fix the food project, and will give you the project plan for the
recording project.
it is mainly the calcualtions, that are not working.
have got an interface.
so, maybe not spend hours, but may be 20 minutes a day max, to help me out.
sorry about that.
okay, might ask on the lists, see if any one can help.
and specific questions.
okay, thanks for that.
sorry about that.
talk to you soon.
postion----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: database problems with jaws in vb
I would have to pull it from the Recycle Bin, I delete any attachments I get
automatically unless I am expecting one.
Also, I really do not have time to work on other peoples projects. I can
answer questions if I know the answers but just can not spend several hours
each day working on projects or researching problems. If you have specific
questions ask and I will try and help but can not spend the time necessary
to help in the way you want. I'm sorry and wish I could help but just do not
have that kind of time. If I did I would be developing scripts for Visual
Studio and writing white papers on accessibility for peer publications as
part of a full time job. That is what is really required in the blind
programming community but nobody is doing that. So, we just live with
struggling to find our own individual work-arounds for all the problems we
encounter. For example, suppose I develop some really good scripts for
Visual Studio and Sql Server Manager. It would be a full-time job to write
them and keep them up to date. Since I would only sell a few copies per year
I would have to charge perhaps $1000 per copy to make enough money to
survive. Would you buy a pscript package for $1000 and perhaps $100 per year
for updates?Then another $1000 every time a new version of Visual Studio
comes out? As for working with you on projects that is just like us working
together on projects requireing 2 or more programmers. That entails allot of
coordination and time which I do not have for working on educational
projects and would not charge you anything even if I could make the time,
just can't make the time. This is exactly why others do not offer this type
of help either. Most serious educational programs require a blind person to
get heavy tutorial help to work with accessibility issues as well as
learning languages and project solution procedures in general and nobody can
make a living doing that because there is just not enough demand for that
kind of service. Everybody wants that kind of support but by the time
someone gets experienced enough to provide that kind of help they have to
spend full time making money and there is no money in accessibility except
at the JAWS or Windoweyes or Microsoft offices. There are a few independent
script developers for jaws but they are expensive, hundreds of dollars for
good scripts as I mentioned and none for Visual Studio as It is a much
larger project which would not be cost effective to produce. Anyway, ask
questions but I am not going to work directly on projects, I thought about
trying to do that to help but just do not have the time.
Sorry, I really am sorry, I mean it but it is what it is and I have to get
back to my own projects. I will help with projects as I have been helping
but can't do more than that.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: database problems with jaws in vb
> Hi.
> okay, will have a look at the grid view.
> and see what i come up with.
> now, are you able to help me out with the visual web developer problems,
> and
> the zip file i sent you.
> did you have a look at that, and show me how to fix the errors.
> cheers Marvin.
> ps: if i do find things, will write a document, when i get some spare
> time,
> and will post it to the list in the near future.
> cheers Marvin.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: database problems with jaws in vb
>
>
> Marv:
> They are using visual techniques to do allot of DataBase and GridView
> layout. Sounds like they are just asking you to change the headers for the
> GridView which should just be properties defined in the Properties Window
> for the GridView. Likely it will be a collection you will open and edit as
> you did with the TableLayoutPanel's column size properties. As for editing
> using the Edit and Formatting of the Smart Tag it can be a pain in
> Windoweyes but I have done it. I think I had to tab to the control, then
> mouse around hitting the right mouse click until I found a spot that
> brought
> up the Smart Tag For that control. Each Smart Tag has options related to
> each type of control. You can, if jaws works, work in the edit or other
> areas of the Smart Tag. I have done some work from there and it was a big
> help, I have also found things I could not use from there so had to work
> around them using code, Properties and whatever depending on what I wanted
> to do. Things might be better with jaws but was spotty with Windoweyes in
> Winforms, in VWD things are allot better since everything is html.
> I do all my database work from code, except defining it and often do that
> from code as well. If you get good at using all the designers and smart
> tags
> keep track of how you do things in a text document so you can publish it
> to
> the list for others who will encounter the same problems later.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:49 AM
> Subject: database problems with jaws in vb
>
>
>> Hi.
>> doing a chapter where i have a sql database, and after playing around,
>> was
>> able to delete the collumns, in the table.
>> but now the chapter says, to click on the data properties, change to edit
>> collumsn, and cannot seem to find that, and have to use f 6 and shift f6,
>> to
>> get to the headers to change the smart tag, icon or some thing, so then
>> i
>> can bring up the edit collumsn, and then go to the format section to
>> format
>> the header collumns, say the header text to put something in the data
>> grid,
>> and to set the auto size mode to none for some of the collumsn.
>> and using jaws 10 beta 2, with visual basic.dot net 2008 express.
>> can any one help.
>> was able to delete the selected collumns in vb.dot net, but cannot do
>> this
>> next step, and it is driving me mad.
>> and any way, jaws does not read the data grid, maybe it is a graphic, and
>> so
>> no text to grab on to.
>> first time setting up data grid views.
>> oh, well, will just have to save the current app, and move on, to the
>> next
>> section of the chapter.
>> if any one has run into this problem before with jaws, with data grids,
>> let
>> me know.
>> really frustrating, and will report that to fs, but wonder if they will
>> fix
>> these problems.
>> cheers Marvin.
>>
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