Hi. okay, will have a look at the grid view. and see what i come up with. now, are you able to help me out with the visual web developer problems, and the zip file i sent you. did you have a look at that, and show me how to fix the errors. cheers Marvin. ps: if i do find things, will write a document, when i get some spare time, and will post it to the list in the near future. cheers Marvin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: database problems with jaws in vb Marv: They are using visual techniques to do allot of DataBase and GridView layout. Sounds like they are just asking you to change the headers for the GridView which should just be properties defined in the Properties Window for the GridView. Likely it will be a collection you will open and edit as you did with the TableLayoutPanel's column size properties. As for editing using the Edit and Formatting of the Smart Tag it can be a pain in Windoweyes but I have done it. I think I had to tab to the control, then mouse around hitting the right mouse click until I found a spot that brought up the Smart Tag For that control. Each Smart Tag has options related to each type of control. You can, if jaws works, work in the edit or other areas of the Smart Tag. I have done some work from there and it was a big help, I have also found things I could not use from there so had to work around them using code, Properties and whatever depending on what I wanted to do. Things might be better with jaws but was spotty with Windoweyes in Winforms, in VWD things are allot better since everything is html. I do all my database work from code, except defining it and often do that from code as well. If you get good at using all the designers and smart tags keep track of how you do things in a text document so you can publish it to the list for others who will encounter the same problems later. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:49 AM Subject: database problems with jaws in vb > Hi. > doing a chapter where i have a sql database, and after playing around, was > able to delete the collumns, in the table. > but now the chapter says, to click on the data properties, change to edit > collumsn, and cannot seem to find that, and have to use f 6 and shift f6, > to > get to the headers to change the smart tag, icon or some thing, so then i > can bring up the edit collumsn, and then go to the format section to > format > the header collumns, say the header text to put something in the data > grid, > and to set the auto size mode to none for some of the collumsn. > and using jaws 10 beta 2, with visual basic.dot net 2008 express. > can any one help. > was able to delete the selected collumns in vb.dot net, but cannot do this > next step, and it is driving me mad. > and any way, jaws does not read the data grid, maybe it is a graphic, and > so > no text to grab on to. > first time setting up data grid views. > oh, well, will just have to save the current app, and move on, to the next > section of the chapter. > if any one has run into this problem before with jaws, with data grids, > let > me know. > really frustrating, and will report that to fs, but wonder if they will > fix > these problems. > cheers Marvin. > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind