Re: accessible math
- From: "Dorene Cornwell" <dorenefc@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:50:46 -0800
Thanks both for the info about the Viewplus and the LaTex example. I did not
way the LaTeX code was enjoyable to read...
I am like Laura: I learned math when I could basically read print, though
sometimes I tell people I took comparatively a lot of math in college
because in math class I did not have to read nearly the volume of material
required from other classes. Anyway, I too find parsing equations read aloud
and even things like SQL statements really difficult. My Braille is, um,
rudimentary and learning Math Braills on my list...
One interesting point referring back to the original inquiry from the woman
from the College Board: a couple years ago, Educational Testing Service did
a small study testing different ways of presenting equation material
orallly. I have no idea what conclusions they finally came up with, but it
might be worthwhile for the person from the College Board to do some calling
around and ask about this study.
Thanks everyone.
DoreneC
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:33 PM, black ares
<matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> in my math preparation I used latex extensively and now I am able to read
> latex code as I read liniar text.
> In fact last two years in university
> i've used infty reader to transform printed math material to latex source
> and to read it.
> Also there is a subset of latex named hrtex
> meaning human readable tex
> and infty reader know also to give such source from a printed/image
> material with math.
> But this kind of reading math demands a lot of experience with latex to
> quickly transform things like
> f_n(x)=\sum_{i=1}^{n}{x^i}
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dorene Cornwell <dorenefc@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2008 7:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: accessible math
>
> The thing Jim Dunleavy is talking about is LaTeX, a text-based language
> used by LOTS of people in math and science to generate equations and to do
> other kinds of formatting / typesetting.
>
> Just guessing, the way Alt text would work is for the Alt text / label to
> be the actual LaTeX code that produces the different figures. A reader needs
> to understand the LaTeX code in order to parse out what symbols are
> involved, but typically someone working in the field might know that anyway
> from writing the code to produce their own equations. The sighted user just
> sees whatever figure is created by the LaTeX code and is indifferent to the
> code.
>
> As for whether or not everything on Wikipedia follows a given convention, I
> assume that is greatly to be hoped for but not guaranteed, just due to the
> nature of Wikipedia.
>
> Probably I could do some actual testing/ research to verify these points,
> but perhaps this is enough to help you get started.
>
> DoreneC
> Seattle WA
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Nimer <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if it is a language. I see it in electronic textbooks,
>> computer files, ETC. There are equation editors that are used for the
>> writing of equations, and I know for sure that Window Eyes, NVDA, and System
>> Access either have big problems reading them, or do not read them at all.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Nimer J
>>
>> Nimer M. Jaber
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>> Jerry Richer wrote:
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>>> I use Wikipedia most every day. A lot of what I look up has
>>> equations on it. I don't see any alt tagging going on that makes the
>>> equations easy to read. What is the language they use to write Math on
>>> Wikipedia?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jerry
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