Will try out those keystrokes, and let's see. Thanks Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message --------------- Subject: Re: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:53:06 +0300 To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >when you use eclipse you must understand 3 interesting concepts: >perspectives >views >and editors. > >A perspective is a gui formed from views and editors which you can use to do >developing. >Different perspectives has different views and editors. >For example there is a java ee perspective, a java perspective, a database >developing perspective and a java debuging perspective. >As you understand a perspective contains as many windows as you can use for >a specific activity (developing, debuging etc). > >With control + f6 >and ctrl +f7 >and ctrl + f8 >you can move ciclic between views, editors and perspectives. >You will notice that there are "solution explorer" like windows in different >perspectives, where the type of developing imposes it. >For example in my eclipse I have: >Project explorer when I do java ee developing, >package explorer when I do Java developing, >Php explorer when I do php developing. >These views and perspectives and editors are part of the plugins used for a >specific language. >So if something seems wierd to you try to change the plugin or the >perspective in a plugin. >Also some plugins offer multiples perspectives for the same task including >different views and editors. >Finaly I think you can build your own perspective with all windows you want >to have for a development task. >best regards >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:08 PM >Subject: Re: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python > > >> Oh, and the version of eclipse am meant to use/have here says the >> following in it's about dialogue box: >> Eclipse IDE for Java Developers >> Version: Helios Service Release 2 >> Build id: 20110301-1815 >> >> >> Jacob Kruger >> Blind Biker >> Skype: BlindZA >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >> >> ----- Original Message --------------- >> >> Subject: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python >> From: Jacob Kruger <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:58:06 +0200 >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>Ok, I do have the sound effect jaws scripts installed, and have been going >>>through some other python tutorial material, and python itself makes >>>enough sense to me, but eclipse seems really pretty much >>>useless/pointless, aside from the fact that I might need to use it for a >>>specific type of work that has had a bunch of plugins installed into >>>eclipse. >>> >>>I can sort of tell it to do things like create a project, but I would then >>>sort of expect things like solution explorers, etc., but don't seem to >>>find anything of any real interest here...? >>> >>>I am also now planning to look at the following comparison between VS and >>>eclipse interface, but they do, unfortunately mention diagrams, etc., so >>>it's obviously targeting sighted guys: >>>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-eclipse-visualstudio/?ca=dgr-btw01Eclipse-VS#ibm-content >>> >>>Aside from that, EdSharp works perfectly well enough/fine for me with >>>regard to editing python source, so might need to try figure out if can in >>>fact implement these specific plugins without using eclipse - don't see >>>why it shouldn't be possible since think the actual eclipse IDE plugins >>>are more related to automatic code generation/wizards, etc., but will have >>>to double check on that one. >>> >>>Anyway, just wondering if anyone else has done much with things like >>>eclipse and python combinations, or if, aside from intro material along >>>with scripts, are there any other types of material related to getting >>>used to the jumbled up interface that eclipse seems to make use of..? >>> >>>Stay well >>> >>>Jacob Kruger >>>Blind Biker >>>Skype: BlindZA >>>'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>> >>>__________ >>>View the list's information and change your settings at >>>//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > >__________ >View the list's information and change your settings at >//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind