Re: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python

  • From: Jacob Kruger <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:12:40 +0200

Will try out those keystrokes, and let's see.

Thanks

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'


----- Original Message ---------------

Subject: Re: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python
   From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
   Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:53:06 +0300
     To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

>when you use eclipse you must understand 3 interesting concepts:
>perspectives
>views
>and editors.
>
>A perspective is a gui formed from views and editors which you can use to do 
>developing.
>Different perspectives has different views and editors.
>For example there is a java ee perspective, a java perspective, a database 
>developing perspective and a java debuging perspective.
>As you understand a perspective contains as many windows as you can use for 
>a specific activity (developing, debuging etc).
>
>With control + f6
>and ctrl +f7
>and ctrl + f8
>you can move ciclic between views, editors and perspectives.
>You will notice that there are "solution explorer" like windows in different 
>perspectives, where the type of developing imposes it.
>For example in my eclipse I have:
>Project explorer when I do java ee developing,
>package explorer when I do Java developing,
>Php explorer when I do php developing.
>These views and perspectives and editors are part of the plugins used for a 
>specific language.
>So if something seems wierd to you try to change the plugin or the 
>perspective in a plugin.
>Also some plugins offer multiples perspectives for the same task including 
>different views and editors.
>Finaly I think you can build your own perspective with all windows you want 
>to have for a development task.
>best regards
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:08 PM
>Subject: Re: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python
>
>
>> Oh, and the version of eclipse am meant to use/have here says the 
>> following in it's about dialogue box:
>> Eclipse IDE for Java Developers
>> Version: Helios Service Release 2
>> Build id: 20110301-1815
>>
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message ---------------
>>
>> Subject: Trying to work in eclipse using a version of python
>>   From: Jacob Kruger <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>   Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:58:06 +0200
>>     To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>>Ok, I do have the sound effect jaws scripts installed, and have been going 
>>>through some other python tutorial material, and python itself makes 
>>>enough sense to me, but eclipse seems really pretty much 
>>>useless/pointless, aside from the fact that I might need to use it for a 
>>>specific type of work that has had a bunch of plugins installed into 
>>>eclipse.
>>>
>>>I can sort of tell it to do things like create a project, but I would then 
>>>sort of expect things like solution explorers, etc., but don't seem to 
>>>find anything of any real interest here...?
>>>
>>>I am also now planning to look at the following comparison between VS and 
>>>eclipse interface, but they do, unfortunately mention diagrams, etc., so 
>>>it's obviously targeting sighted guys:
>>>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-eclipse-visualstudio/?ca=dgr-btw01Eclipse-VS#ibm-content
>>>
>>>Aside from that, EdSharp works perfectly well enough/fine for me with 
>>>regard to editing python source, so might need to try figure out if can in 
>>>fact implement these specific plugins without using eclipse - don't see 
>>>why it shouldn't be possible since think the actual eclipse IDE plugins 
>>>are more related to automatic code generation/wizards, etc., but will have 
>>>to double check on that one.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just wondering if anyone else has done much with things like 
>>>eclipse and python combinations, or if, aside from intro material along 
>>>with scripts, are there any other types of material related to getting 
>>>used to the jumbled up interface that eclipse seems to make use of..?
>>>
>>>Stay well
>>>
>>>Jacob Kruger
>>>Blind Biker
>>>Skype: BlindZA
>>>'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
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