Re: Seeking co-learners in Ruby on Rails development

  • From: "E.J. Zufelt" <lists@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:59:29 -0400

Just as an FYI.  There is some discussion of major reworking to some of the 
subsystems for Drupal 8 that would make it far easier to use Drupal as a web 
application engine.

Note: that Drupal 7 has yet to be released, so these improvements are a while 
off.

HTH,
Everett Zufelt
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On 2010-07-30, at 8:54 AM, Jamal Mazrui wrote:

> Drupal, Joomla!, Plone, and Django are primarily content management systems 
> rather than web application frameworks.  None are as powerful and have as 
> active a developer community as Rails.  For example, check out the breadth 
> and depth of the Rails 2010 conference that O'Reilly recently organized in 
> Baltimore:
> http://en.oreilly.com/rails2010
> 
> Also check out a partial list of deployed Rails apps on its official site, 
> and compare that to sites produced with other systems.
> 
> If you just want to create a CMS, I think Drupal is currently the best.  If 
> you want to create a more flexible site, however, including one with a 
> RESTful API (supporting web 2.0 clients), Rails is the best choice.  This 
> factor is a strong one for me -- creating web sites with services that may be 
> accessed not only via a generic browser but via dedicated clients on any 
> platform or device using an API of that site (like Twitter, for example, 
> which is developed in Rails).
> 
> Jamal
> 
> 
> On 7/30/2010 8:14 AM, Homme, James wrote:
>> Hi Jamal,
>> Can you elaborate on why you think this? I know that Python has frameworks 
>> like this. And there are the popular packages like Plone, Jumla, Drupal, and 
>> others I can't think of right now.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:31 AM
>> To: blindwebbers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind; Program-l
>> Subject: Seeking co-learners in Ruby on Rails development
>> 
>>    As you may know, Ruby on Rails is a popular web application
>> framework.  Its official web site is
>> http://RubyOnRails.org
>> 
>> Besides documentation there, I found an excellent tutorial at
>> http://RailsTutorial.org
>> 
>> I have included a text version of that tutorial, as well as many others
>> on the Ruby language and Rails package, in the archive
>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/ruby_doc.zip
>> 
>> After extensive research on web content management systems and
>> application frameworks, I have decided that Rails is currently the best
>> fit for some sites I want to be able to do.  Its power comes with
>> complexity, however, and, unfortunately, there are less resources
>> available for helping Windows developers use this framework compared to
>> Mac or Linux developers (I would develop on Windows and then deploy on a
>> Linux web host).
>> 
>> So, I thought it could benefit my self-learning if other blind
>> developers were also pursuing that path together.  We could share tips
>> along the way, hopefully helping one another out of jams, and
>> reinforcing motivation to continue.
>> 
>> If anyone else on these lists is interested in learning Rails together,
>> or if you happen to know Rails already and can lend a hand, please speak up.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jamal
>> 
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