Re: Scanner/Stuff...

  • From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:33:10 -0700

still, his method seems to be fairly well accepted, a downloadable simple... form, that must be signed by a verifiable person at a qualified and verifiable location, usually accepted are doctors, rehab councilors, and staff of a school for the blind and visually impaired such as the Braille institute in southern California and the like

the page should include name of course, title, of what agency, and address phone and such.

that should do the trick for you,

a question, what does it take to become "authorized" for such distributing? I know I can look it up, but since you brought it up, I am hoping you can give me the "skinny" on it?

have a good one,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: Scanner/Stuff...

The publisher can send the content of a book to whomever they choose, inside
our outside the US.  People like us, not in the publishing biz, are
restricted by all sorts of copyright laws in the US and around the world
which complicates the issue terribly.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:38 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Scanner/Stuff...

I have never read a book from because I think that it costs
money, while very many good books can be found for free.
But, before bookshare started to give O'Reilly books, O'Reilly had a free
service for the blind, and I received books from them.

They created an FTP account where I could download the books I wanted, and
before creating me that FPT account, I needed to send them a scanned paper
that proves that I am a blind.
They accepted my paper, even if I live in Romania, Europe, not USA.
They told me that it is not a problem that I live in Romania, because they
also had some romanian employees, and I think they use to accept those
papers no matter the country.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:36 PM
Subject: Scanner/Stuff...

Hi Guys,

My parents are in town so I'm fairly distracted from vocational and other
programming related tasks.  I did, however, manage to find a scanner with
document feeder (they used to call these sheet feeders, were consumers
stupid enough to think they had something to do with bedding or is using
more sophisticated term a way to hit me up for an additional $25 or so by
making me think it's a device far more interesting than something that
simply scans sheets of paper - which, in fact, is what I want it to do).

I bought a new Canon from the low end of their "professional" line which
wasn't terribly expensive and only slightly slower than the one that died
us last week. It is expected to arrive by UPS mule by Thursday so Sue can
start the Drupal scanning project on Friday while I'm having a tattoo put
onto my left forearm. Assuming we don't get bogged down in a lot of paper
jams and other scanning hell, we should have the book done by sometime on

This brings me to a minor conundrum - currently is my most
profitable client (the amount I earn from my different projects varies on
monthly basis depending upon how much attention I can devote to a gig and
the project's level of urgency).  I want, therefore, to promote BSO
subscriptions to help defray the cost of the work they pay me to perform
to help keep the non-profit running smoothly as possible.

At the same time, I don't want to exclude our friends outside the US from
having access to this and other books on programming and technology that
process.  Also, any web site that posts the book without the protections
afforded by BSO, NLS and the others runs into a possible copyright problem
with the publisher as, although we claim it is intended for blind people
only, we have no way of protecting the content to ensure that proof of a
print disability has been proffered before we share the book.

I'm open to all sorts of ideas, please make suggestions.

Yesterday, I spent an additional $250 on a birthday gift for my twin niece and nephew. I got them the Lego robotics starter kit which includes a ton
of really neat features (you can read about it at, there are at
least a half dozen books on Amazon describing projects one can make with
set, loads of add on parts, the ability to write code on a PC and download it to your bot and so many other very cool features that I could write for

The kids were first introduced to these Legos as part of their charter
school program that brought them to MIT for two hours per week, one hour
robotics using the kit I got for them and the other on crypt-analysis and
code breaking.  Where were such programs when I was eleven years old?

On a more topic based question, though, if I recall from my own childhood,
Lego bricks and other pieces were highly tactile - does anyone know of
kids using this kit to make their own robots?  Does anyone know of any
trials with children with vision impairment and such a kit?  I'm curious
learn if it could be fit into a middle school course for budding blind


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