Re: S A P

  • From: Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:10:36 -0700

There's so many holes in section 508 it makes swiss cheese look rock solid.

On 9/9/11, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
<susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who have chimed in on this subject. I am going to forward
> this to some folks in my building.
>
> Susie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vince Mistretta
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:31 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: S A P
>
> Since you work under USDA, they should be incorporating accessible
> product under Section 508.
>
> I do know SAP has a very active accesibility workgroup working on the
> accessibility of their products.  Most of their products release
> currently are using Java based platforms and supply the JRE with the
> installs for the installation if it is not already installed under the
> common shared files.
>
> I personally only get involved with Crystal Reports which is one of
> their inherited products and work for this is coming along wit rumor
> of an accessible product in possibly next version.  I tried all the
> recent JRE based CR versions XI, 2008 and the latest and accessibility
> still is not fully there even using Access-Bridge.
>
> I also know that they did do an accessment of all their current
> products within the past 2 years to find out what they needed to do to
> get them to work with screen readers in all Windows platforms.  I also
> understand the Java Eclipse plug-in for Crystal Reports is somewhat
> accessible so that's a start.
>
> If you wish to know more about accessibility in SAP products, contact
> them directly.  They may be able to forward your questions to someone
> who may be working on the issues for the products USDA is bringing in.
>
> Anyone know what the SAP Project on Freedom Scientific's site is all
> about?  Maybe tha'ts related to this issue.
>
> On 9/9/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Susie,
>>
>> We are moving toward SAP where I work, although it doesn't involve me
>> directly yet.  However, what I know of it is that it is very big with many
>> modules and
>> many roles that people can play.  For example, there is something that can
>> come with it called Business Warehouse which I believe is pretty much
>> accessible by querying data as I understand it.  Companies that move
>> completely to SAP follow a process that can take years.  What SAP means to
>> you is
>> going to be very dependent upon what role they are thinking of you
>> playing.
>> The time table might also be important to you, as it may not have that
>> much
>> of
>> an effect on you if you plan to retire within the next couple of years.
>> As
>> I understand it, though, there are things you can do with it.  my advice
>> would be to
>> not go to the meeting next week ready to say it is or is not accessible,
>> but
>> with the idea of finding out what your role will be.  It would also be
>> interesting to
>> ask if accessibility has been raised with SAP and what they have told your
>> management since I would guess they are required to pick an accessible
>> vendor
>> for this.  The question is more complicated than "Can one program in SAP,"
>> but that is probably good.  Unless they are only using SAP for a very
>> specific
>> purpose, though, it is going to take a while to implement it so there is
>> time.  It sounds as though we may both have a very good resource in
>> Dorene,
>> and I
>> am hoping she will chime in here if what I have said is not accurate.
>> Also,
>> knowing more about what the plans are there is very important.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:26:45 +0000, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I would really like you to post the accessibility issue. I am going to a
>>> meeting next Thursday concerning user interface and I wanted to make
>>> myself
>> informed to some degree.
>>
>>>Susie
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorene
>>> Cornwell
>>>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:27 PM
>>>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: S A P
>>
>>>Susie
>>
>>>SAP is an international company based in Germany and I am on a list of
>>>blind interpreters and translators. Some of them do technical
>>>localization and have to work to varying degrees with the products
>>>they work with. Would you like me to post a question and see whether
>>>any of them have enough experience to help identify accessibility
>>>issues?
>>
>>>To be honest, I also think when people make purchasing decisions that
>>>it is reasonable that accessibility and training about how to use
>>>accessibility features be included in the work plan. Have you already
>>>asked people involved in the decisions and deployment scheduling about
>>>accessibility, say as a reasonable accommodation?
>>
>>>Best
>>
>>>DoreneC
>>
>>>On 9/8/11, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
>>><susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I don't know, but I will try to find out which modules we are getting.
>>>> You
>>>> have all been very helpful. I had hoped this would blow over, but it is
>>>> gaining strength from the upper management folks in Washington.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>>
>>>> Susie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorene
>>>> Cornwell
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 3:44 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: S A P
>>>>
>>>> Hi Susie
>>>>
>>>> SAP is a large suite of programs that do database management with
>>>> different orientations for different business functions.
>>>>
>>>> Put SAP into the search engine of your choice to get started or put
>>>> SAP accessibility into the search engine and see what comes up.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what modules of SAP are to be adopted in your office?
>>>>
>>>> SAP and Crystal Reports are separate independently developed products
>>>> from different vendors. Crystal Reports is a report writing program
>>>> that can interface with a variety of databases. Frequently the data
>>>> used for report-writing functions has been cleaned, standardized,
>>>> restructured from transaction databases to support specific report
>>>> structures.
>>>>
>>>> There is a lot more that could be said, but is this enough to start?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Dorene Cornwell
>>>> Seattle WA
>>>>
>>>> On 9/7/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Susie,
>>>>>
>>>>> The "SAP" I have heard of is a huge software solution that is used to
>>>>> run
>>>>> a
>>>>> business.  It basically is intended to replace many of the functions
>>>>> that
>>>>> has
>>>>> traditionally been handled by in-house software to handle ordering
>>>>> products,
>>>>> billing, inventory, sales reporting, and even some HR applications.  If
>>>>> this
>>>>> is
>>>>> what you are talking about, there are many different parts to it and it
>>>>> is
>>>>> hard to say whether it is accessible or not accessible.  Some of how
>>>>> data
>>>>> is
>>>>> retrieved
>>>>> is handled by SQL, for example.  If your agency is converting to SAP,
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>> necessary to understand what exactly they are converting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:46:11 +0000, Katherine Moss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think it's where Chrystal reports comes from.
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan
>>>>>> Schulz
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:39 AM
>>>>>>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: Re: S A P
>>>>>
>>>>>>hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>>only heard the initials.
>>>>>>they use it at monsanto as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City,
>>>>>> MO<mailto:susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To:
>>>>>> programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:07 AM
>>>>>>Subject: S A P
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Listers,
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here at the U S D A they have decided to develop code with S A P. This
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> German company. That is all I know about it. Have any of you had any
>>>>> experience with this?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Susie Stanzel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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