Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
- From: John covici <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:20:06 -0500
Would they let you install cygwin -- then depending on what you need
to do, you could some of the linux command line utilities.
on Sunday 11/30/2008 Peter Quaiattini(Peter_Quaiattini@xxxxxx) wrote
> Hi all -
>
> I am appreciating the many discussions that my original post has
> instigated. And, to help bring some more info to the conversation, let
> me say the following:
>
> 1) My role as a database administrator does not require me, nor enable
> me to have complete system-wide access to these servers.
>
> 2) The scope of the servers in question is reasonablely large - several
> dozens and the specifics vary - new servers are added and old ones ones
> dropped every week or two so it is a changing and dynamic environment.
>
> 3) Repeting part of my earlier post - but it is not possible to install
> JAWS onto all of these servers. Reasons for this are several and are far
> too complicated to get into here. Suffice it to say that no one, be
> they users of adaptive technology or otherwise, can install anything
> onto these servers unless it goes first through the production control
> group. And snow balls have a better chance of surviving in very warm
> places than I do of having JAWS installed into all of these
> environments.
>
> 4) It has been suggested to me that rather than remote-desktopping onto
> these servers, that I use Computer
> Management by calling compmgmt.msc and then connecting to the other
> computer which should allow me to run the utilities on any of the other
> computers from my own machine. This should be manageable simply through
> setting in Active Direcctory or what ever other standard security issues
> need to be addressed. I'll look into this further and let you all know.
>
> In the mean-time, if anyone has any further ideas, I would welcome your
> input.
>
> Regards,
> Peter Quaiattini
> BITS OPS - Data Hosting Services
> Canadian Pacific Railway
> (403) 319-6579
> peter_quaiattini@xxxxxx
>
> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:52:39 -0700
>
> hello,
> Most admins might see it as a volnerability. Though Jaws may supposedly
> be
> secure, allowing someone to take control of your system after entry
> would
> give most admins cause to hesitate.
> Besides that, Jaws is ran by quite a few people, but there aren't enough
> of
> those people to provide cause of targeting. So Jaws can go from being a
> minimal security risk on most pcs to a high security risk if someone
> finds
> out the company is using it and finds volnerabilities.
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
>
>
> > Good evening,
> >
> > I agree with you in part. It does seem ridiculous in many situations.
>
> > However, there are likely some situations in which it is legitimate to
>
> > keep an invasive application like JAWS off of a production server.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Everett
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> >
> >
> >> if he is supposed to system admin them, that's ridiculous!
> >>
> >> half an accommodation is none at all
> >>
> >> later,
> >> inthane
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> >>
> >>
> >>> Good evening,
> >>>
> >>> I believe the issue is that the boxes cannot have anything extra
> >>> installed on them, even JAWS, as they are production servers.
> >>>
> >>> HTH,
> >>> Everett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 4:01 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> once upon a time;
> >>>> A. you could set up jaws as a network share.
> >>>> B. you could update all machines on a network with a script file
> that
> >>>> windows provided you.
> >>>>
> >>>> are neither of these options available to you on this network?
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH,
> >>>> inthane
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:32 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I believe the original poster indicated that installing any flavor
> of
> >>>>>JFW on these remote boxes was not practical.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JW
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Trouble wrote:
> >>>>>> if you get the jaws remote support for around $200. it will use
> the
> >>>>>> remote found on xp and vista, but ain't heard anyone do vista
> yet. it
> >>>>>> works like jaws tandem, but better, its not limited to jaws 10
> and
> >>>>>> only jaws users.
> >>>>>> The only problem is you have to have jaws pro to get remote
> access.
> >>>>>> At 08:42 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>>>> Trouble,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But, that's not the issue. Accessibility is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What solutions are out there for those who want to access other
> >>>>>>> computers
> >>>>>>> remotely. If you use the JAWS remote access solution, do you
> need
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> install JAWS on the remote machine? If so, what solutions are
> there
> >>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> than JAWS? Are there solutions that do not involve installing
> >>>>>>> screen-reading software on the remotes?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Reed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Trouble
> >>>>>>> Sent: 2008/11/27 16:03
> >>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> if they are not setup to share then they won't be seen by
> anything.
> >>>>>>> That can only be setup on each box or computer in either
> mycomputer
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>> explorer.
> >>>>>>> At 05:35 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>>>> >What does "checking the sharing setup on those other boxes."
> mean?
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >Reed
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> >From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> >[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Trouble
> >>>>>>> >Sent: 2008/11/27 11:36
> >>>>>>> >To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> >Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >checking the sharing setup on those other boxes.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >At 11:12 AM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>>>> > >Hi all -
> >>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> > >I am sorry if the title leads you to think that this topic
> has
> >>>>>>> > >already been discussed, but perhaps my question is a
> different
> >>>>>>> > >flavour of the problem of remote desktop access.
> >>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> > >I have purchased the remote access support for JAWS, and with
> it,
> >>>>>>> > >I
> >>>>>>> > >can run remote desktop on another machine. I have not
> actually
> >>>>>>> > >done
> >>>>>>> > >this, but I believe I understand the principles.
> >>>>>>> > >As I understand it, generally speaking, in order to enable
> access
> >>>>>>> > >to
> >>>>>>> > >a remote desktop, JAWS also needs to be installed on that
> remote
> >>>>>>> > >windows machine as well and then all works fine.
> >>>>>>> > > If my understanding is correct, then so far so good.
> >>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> > >The problem I am dealing with is that I work in a support
> role as
> >>>>>>> > >a
> >>>>>>> > >database administrator for a relatively large company that
> has a
> >>>>>>> > >complex computing infrastructure. In the production computing
> >>>>>>> > >environment, there are many, many Windows boxes that I need
> to
> >>>>>>> > >gain
> >>>>>>> > >access to. Being production (vs development or test boxes),
> >>>>>>> > >access to
> >>>>>>> > >these boxes is highly controlled. It is not feasible to
> install
> >>>>>>> > >JAWS
> >>>>>>> > >onto dozens of production windows boxes to enable me remote
> >>>>>>> > >access to
> >>>>>>> > >do parts of my job. That just isn't going to happen.
> >>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> > >So I am wondering if others have run into this problem
> wherein
> >>>>>>> > >remote
> >>>>>>> > >access is needed to numerous other windows boxes but it is
> not
> >>>>>>> > >possible to install JAWS onto those boxes?
> >>>>>>> > >Are there other ways to gain access? Other tools? Other
> methods?
> >>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> > >Appreciate any ideas others may have.
> >>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>> > > Regards,
> >>>>>>> > >Peter Quaiattini
> >>>>>>> > >BITS OPS - Data Hosting Services
> >>>>>>> > >Canadian Pacific Railway
> >>>>>>> > >(403) 319-6579
> >>>>>>> > >peter_quaiattini@xxxxxx
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