Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
- From: "Peter Quaiattini" <Peter_Quaiattini@xxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:28:31 -0700
Hi all -
I am appreciating the many discussions that my original post has
instigated. And, to help bring some more info to the conversation, let
me say the following:
1) My role as a database administrator does not require me, nor enable
me to have complete system-wide access to these servers.
2) The scope of the servers in question is reasonablely large - several
dozens and the specifics vary - new servers are added and old ones ones
dropped every week or two so it is a changing and dynamic environment.
3) Repeting part of my earlier post - but it is not possible to install
JAWS onto all of these servers. Reasons for this are several and are far
too complicated to get into here. Suffice it to say that no one, be
they users of adaptive technology or otherwise, can install anything
onto these servers unless it goes first through the production control
group. And snow balls have a better chance of surviving in very warm
places than I do of having JAWS installed into all of these
environments.
4) It has been suggested to me that rather than remote-desktopping onto
these servers, that I use Computer
Management by calling compmgmt.msc and then connecting to the other
computer which should allow me to run the utilities on any of the other
computers from my own machine. This should be manageable simply through
setting in Active Direcctory or what ever other standard security issues
need to be addressed. I'll look into this further and let you all know.
In the mean-time, if anyone has any further ideas, I would welcome your
input.
Regards,
Peter Quaiattini
BITS OPS - Data Hosting Services
Canadian Pacific Railway
(403) 319-6579
peter_quaiattini@xxxxxx
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:52:39 -0700
hello,
Most admins might see it as a volnerability. Though Jaws may supposedly
be
secure, allowing someone to take control of your system after entry
would
give most admins cause to hesitate.
Besides that, Jaws is ran by quite a few people, but there aren't enough
of
those people to provide cause of targeting. So Jaws can go from being a
minimal security risk on most pcs to a high security risk if someone
finds
out the company is using it and finds volnerabilities.
Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
web: tysdomain-com
Visit for quality software and web design.
skype: st8amnd2005
----- Original Message -----
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
> Good evening,
>
> I agree with you in part. It does seem ridiculous in many situations.
> However, there are likely some situations in which it is legitimate to
> keep an invasive application like JAWS off of a production server.
>
> HTH,
> Everett
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
>
>
>> if he is supposed to system admin them, that's ridiculous!
>>
>> half an accommodation is none at all
>>
>> later,
>> inthane
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
>>
>>
>>> Good evening,
>>>
>>> I believe the issue is that the boxes cannot have anything extra
>>> installed on them, even JAWS, as they are production servers.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Everett
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 4:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
>>>
>>>
>>>> once upon a time;
>>>> A. you could set up jaws as a network share.
>>>> B. you could update all machines on a network with a script file
that
>>>> windows provided you.
>>>>
>>>> are neither of these options available to you on this network?
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> inthane
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I believe the original poster indicated that installing any flavor
of
>>>>>JFW on these remote boxes was not practical.
>>>>>
>>>>> JW
>>>>>
>>>>> Trouble wrote:
>>>>>> if you get the jaws remote support for around $200. it will use
the
>>>>>> remote found on xp and vista, but ain't heard anyone do vista
yet. it
>>>>>> works like jaws tandem, but better, its not limited to jaws 10
and
>>>>>> only jaws users.
>>>>>> The only problem is you have to have jaws pro to get remote
access.
>>>>>> At 08:42 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Trouble,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, that's not the issue. Accessibility is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What solutions are out there for those who want to access other
>>>>>>> computers
>>>>>>> remotely. If you use the JAWS remote access solution, do you
need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> install JAWS on the remote machine? If so, what solutions are
there
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> than JAWS? Are there solutions that do not involve installing
>>>>>>> screen-reading software on the remotes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Trouble
>>>>>>> Sent: 2008/11/27 16:03
>>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if they are not setup to share then they won't be seen by
anything.
>>>>>>> That can only be setup on each box or computer in either
mycomputer
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> explorer.
>>>>>>> At 05:35 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>> >What does "checking the sharing setup on those other boxes."
mean?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Reed
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> >From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> >[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Trouble
>>>>>>> >Sent: 2008/11/27 11:36
>>>>>>> >To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> >Subject: Re: Remote Access to many Windows boxes
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >checking the sharing setup on those other boxes.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >At 11:12 AM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>> > >Hi all -
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >I am sorry if the title leads you to think that this topic
has
>>>>>>> > >already been discussed, but perhaps my question is a
different
>>>>>>> > >flavour of the problem of remote desktop access.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >I have purchased the remote access support for JAWS, and with
it,
>>>>>>> > >I
>>>>>>> > >can run remote desktop on another machine. I have not
actually
>>>>>>> > >done
>>>>>>> > >this, but I believe I understand the principles.
>>>>>>> > >As I understand it, generally speaking, in order to enable
access
>>>>>>> > >to
>>>>>>> > >a remote desktop, JAWS also needs to be installed on that
remote
>>>>>>> > >windows machine as well and then all works fine.
>>>>>>> > > If my understanding is correct, then so far so good.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >The problem I am dealing with is that I work in a support
role as
>>>>>>> > >a
>>>>>>> > >database administrator for a relatively large company that
has a
>>>>>>> > >complex computing infrastructure. In the production computing
>>>>>>> > >environment, there are many, many Windows boxes that I need
to
>>>>>>> > >gain
>>>>>>> > >access to. Being production (vs development or test boxes),
>>>>>>> > >access to
>>>>>>> > >these boxes is highly controlled. It is not feasible to
install
>>>>>>> > >JAWS
>>>>>>> > >onto dozens of production windows boxes to enable me remote
>>>>>>> > >access to
>>>>>>> > >do parts of my job. That just isn't going to happen.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >So I am wondering if others have run into this problem
wherein
>>>>>>> > >remote
>>>>>>> > >access is needed to numerous other windows boxes but it is
not
>>>>>>> > >possible to install JAWS onto those boxes?
>>>>>>> > >Are there other ways to gain access? Other tools? Other
methods?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >Appreciate any ideas others may have.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>>>> > >Peter Quaiattini
>>>>>>> > >BITS OPS - Data Hosting Services
>>>>>>> > >Canadian Pacific Railway
>>>>>>> > >(403) 319-6579
>>>>>>> > >peter_quaiattini@xxxxxx
>>>>>>> > >__________
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