Jim, Not sure if you are talking to me, but our accessibility fixes in NetBeans apply for any language netbeans supports and you can download these fixes straight from the NetBeans update center or from source forge. The features that make the compiler and debugger omniscient and talkative, however, are only supported for our custom language, Hop, because the compiler work is incredibly complicated. Sodbeans, once released, will only available from source forge. Our tools are currently working with Sappy, NVDA, and JAWS on PC (with or without the java access bridge installed), for windows XP, Vista, and 7, 32 and 64 bit. We also support Mac OS X 10.6.4 (the very latest version only) in a limited fashion. It works fine on Mac, but there are some compatibility issues with Voice over that we won't have fixed until the Sodbeans 1.5 release, we think. Also, it's relatively easy to add new screen readers, so folks that want to add <insert your favorite screen reader here> support into Sodbeans are welcome to do so. Stefik __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind