In the language we are distributing in Sodbeans (Called Hop) to schools for the blind, hello world is done like this: print "Hello, World!" When you run that in the debugger, it outputs to the screen reader, "Hello, World was printed to the console." You can then go to the console and verify, if you really want to. Stefik __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind