Re: Misc Mozilla
- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:23:10 -0500 (EST)
Clearly, little effort is being put into learning the application before
criticizing it. The commands and hot keys I mentioned are quickly
apparent on the Code menu pulldown of the Komodo main menu. Kommodo's hot
keys are, in fact, compliant with Windows standards -- as much so as
TextPad's as far as I can tell. If one wants an editor that works like
Notepad, then look no further -- it is installed with Windows. If one
wants a programming editor with much more functionality, then some study
will be necessary -- the term "RTFM" arose for a reason! In a sepearate
message, I will post a list of hot keys that I found in the HTML user
guide installed with Komodo.
Jamal
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:23:26 +0200
> From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Misc Mozilla
>
> Well, I have asked him twice but with a lot of intelligent answers, but no
> helpful answer.
> I couldn't find those hotkeys.
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Misc Mozilla
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Jamal just said he learned some of the things you didn't by looking at the
> > interface. You need to do what you preach.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Octavian
> > Rasnita"
> > <orasnita@xxxxxxx To
> > om> programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent by: cc
> > programmingblind-
> > bounce@freelists. Subject
> > org Re: Misc Mozilla
> >
> >
> > 11/02/2007 02:57
> > AM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > programmingblind@
> > freelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I think I understand now.
> > I need to "learn" to use Commodo.
> >
> > I never had a learning period for editors like Notepad, TextPad or editors
> > I've used in the past, and I don't like to need reading help files in
> > order
> > just to be able to use an editor.
> >
> > I think an editor should learn us how to use it by just simply looking at
> > its interface, and this means following the known standards.
> > Immediately after installing TextPad, I use to set it to follow
> > Microsoft's
> > conventions. It would be helpful if Commodo would also allow such a thing.
> >
> > The most accessible programs are not only those who can be accessed with a
> > certain version of a certain screen reader, but those who can be accessed
> > by
> > those who's native language is not english, without needing to spend time
> > for learning new interfaces, and so on, with other words, accessible as
> > easy
> > as possible.
> >
> > Thanks for the help files for Commodo. I hope I will find what I need in
> > them.
> >
> > Octavian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:48 AM
> > Subject: Misc Mozilla
> >
> >
> >> In case this helps those interested in learning Komodo, I've created a
> >> documentation collection at
> >> http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/kmdo_doc.zip
> >>
> >> It includes all text files I found in the installed directory tree, and
> >> all HTML files combined into a single structured text document. That
> > file
> >> is largely duplicative of a text version of the PDF user guide, but I
> >> included both to make sure I got all possible documentation. I'm pasting
> >> the feedback.txt file below.
> >>
> >> Anyone interested in learning Firefox will find a couple of tutorials in
> >> the archive of miscellaneous software documentation at
> >> http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/misc_doc.zip
> >>
> >> A few files on open source development are in the miscellaneous
> >> programming collection at
> >> http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/prog_doc.zip
> >>
> >> A reminder that the fruit basket example I did with Mozilla XulRunner is
> >> at
> >> http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/xul_fruit.zip
> >>
> >> Jamal
> >>
> >>
> >> Sending Feedback
> >>
> >> We welcome your feedback, suggestions, feature requests and bug reports.
> >>
> >> Comments and Feature Requests
> >>
> >> If you tried Komodo and you would like to see a certain feature, or you
> >> would
> >> like to tell us how Komodo met or didn't meet your coding needs, send us
> >> an
> >> email at Komodo-feedback@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> ActiveState Community site
> >>
> >> Ask questions, get (or give) advice and share code with other Komodo
> >> users here:
> >>
> >> http://community.activestate.com/products/Komodo
> >>
> >> Reporting Bugs
> >>
> >> If you have found a bug, we'd like to know about it. First, view our
> >> on-line bug
> >> database and see if your bug has already been reported. If you can't find
> >> your
> >> issue, you can submit a bug report.
> >>
> >> To view our bug database and submit a bug report:
> >>
> >> 1. Go to our on-line bug database at http://bugs.ActiveState.com/Komodo
> >> or
> >> From the Komodo Workspace, go to the Help menu and select Komodo Bug
> >> Database.
> >> 2. Click View Bugs. You can apply filters and then sort the result by
> >> column.
> >> 3. If necessary, click Search and enter a keyword for your bug.
> >> 4. If you can't see your bug, click Submit a bug.
> >> 5. Complete the on-line form with as much detail as possible. This helps
> >> us
> >> identify the problem.
> >> 6. Click Submit Bug Report.
> >> If you make a mistake, click Reset.
> >>
> >> Your bug will be assigned an ID and you can monitor the progress of your
> >> bug on
> >> this Web site. We will email you when your bug is resolved.
> >>
> >>
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