RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:40:10 -0400

Hi Laura,
ESpeak is written in C or C++. Maybe you can help it talk better.

Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

I agree--I tried NVDA and found it a lot more functional than I expected,
and its view of the UI and navigation commands are easier to use IMO, and a
lot more logical.  The only thing that tripped me up last time I used it was
the fact that it uses espeak instead of eloquence, which I'm used to, and
the espeak voice was not as clear to my ear.  Also, when I tried to do a say
character twice rapidly, which in jaws speaks the phonetic word starting
with that letter, NVDA just spoke the ascii value.  I complained about this
on the NVDA list as I think being able to hear the output is important
without memorizing the ascii equivalent of everything.  But all in all I
think I prefer NVDA for many operations over jaws.  It's not there yet, but
for free software it seems to be a nice little package.
--le

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA


NVDA actually has quite a few of the same keystrokes/shortcuts as jaws, but
it also has a few that I sometimes wish jaws has, like the ones that let you
a bit more easily navigate parent/child controls, etc.

My main use of NVDA is either as backup, or for different languages, but I
also keep the portable version on my flash drives since it means I can quite
easily work on other people's machines without any software installation.

In other words, while I need/use jaws for lots of work tasks etc., NVDA is
definitely my second best choice, and it's getting better all the time - and
it's _free_.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lafond, Eileen" <Eileen.Lafond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA


> So what you are saying is that it will not have it's own shortcuts as JAWS
> has mainly with the num pad, or maybe fewer short cuts.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DaShiell, Jude
> T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
> Importance: Low
>
> Probably more efficient since it hasn't got the huge command set jaws has
> got.  That means though you need to do more with windows keyboard
> shortcuts though.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lafond, Eileen
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 13:47
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
> Hi,
> Does anyone know how efficient NVDA actually is as a screen reader?
>
> Eileen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of demir
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:26 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
> Very cool stuff:)
> Jaws is Woldemort, Nvda is Harry:)
>
> Demir Ajvazi
> Msn:
> demir_zmaj@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype:
> demir-2007
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerneels Roos" <kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
>
>>  100 points for that one!!! Ha ha ha he he he ha ha ha!!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On 10/13/2010 8:35 AM, Hrvoje Katić wrote:
>>>  HaHaHa that is awesome!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
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>>> On 13.10.2010 1:42, qubit wrote:
>>>> For anyone who hasn't heard this one already, here's for your
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>>>>
>>>> --le
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