Hi,
Ok, let's see which ones I can answer.
1. Do you have to turn VoiceOver off before you start emacspeak?
- Not necessarily. I usually do it because otherwise you get
voiceOver repeating what emacspeak says, but if you really want to you
can also just mute speech.
2. Can emacspaek work with the VoiceOver sub system and use the mac
TTS or do you have to use espeak?
- It works with the mac speech server, just like the ' say' command
3. Without actually running emacspeak is there a way to test all the
components separately?
- Not that I kow of, but i'm quite a newbie in that field.
4. Can emacspeak only work in the terminal version of emacs or could
it also work in a Cocoa version -- read something about Aqua Emacs ---
looks like a GUI version of emacs.
- Theoretically speaking it should not be all that hard to get it
going in the GUI version but I have no experience with that.
5. Has anyone managed to get emacspeak working on Leopard (OSX 10.5.8)?
- 10.6.6, sorry :D
6. Any other nifty programmers editors for Mac? My beloved VIM, both
terminal and GUI versions don't seem to play nicely with VoiceOver, or
shall I rather say VoiceOver doesn't seem to play nicely with them
since they are nice fellows!
- XCode I guess, but i'm not too fond of that myself. There's a few
but I can't comment on their accessibility.
7. I've asked before about a terminal program improvement over the
standard terminal app in Leopard, which also doesn't work properly
with VoiceOver. Any other ideas besides yassr and mactelnet?
- first, yasr not yassr (stands for ' yet another screenreader"). The
terminal in snow leopard is ...workable. Not brilliant but it is
usable and to my knowledge theres not really something better at the
moment so ...I guess if you can get emacspeak going you can use its
builtin shell.
8. Are there no full screen , basic terminal / console mode for OSX
like in linux Ctrl+Alt + F1 for which Braille or voice can work? When
booting and holding down Shift you get to a single user mode that is
similar to the linuc console, so this does exist although that one
doesn't have speech.
- Not that I know of, but yasr might be able to help there.
9. A clever way to access a mac is of course via ssh -- saw Florian
was doing this -- but then again no emacspeak possible there.
- What exactly are you asking? Indeed I use ssh on and to my mac, but
if terminal on mac won't work for you than ssh won't either. as for to
the mac, i use a combo of puTTY and nvda for that.
10. I understand emacspeak provides a sort of networkable speech
protocol similar to X Windows which in theory would enable you to
write a speech server placed anywhere on your network. How well does
this really work? Could you for example ssh into a mac, set the speech
up on emacspeak to use a speech server on the computer you are ssh'ing
from?
Not sure. I wouldn't know how such a thing would work, except maybe
two versions of the same OS running the same package.
Many questions!
- indeed :D
HTH,
Florian
2011/6/10, Kerneels Roos<kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>:
Hi List,
Good day to you all. I've meticulously followed Ken's instructions for
installing emacspeak on Mac OSX but it's still not speaking.
Everything downloaded, compiled and installed without errors although
macports did download a lot of stuff which I suppose emacs and emacspeak
depends on.
Emacs and even emacspeak does open, but no speech. The DTK_PROGRAM
environment variable is set -- if I do "echo $DTK_PROGRAM " in a
terminal it prints "mac".
I'm not looking for emacspeak or emacs help since that is well
documented by Alex's doc and others, but I am looking for more info on
how to get emacspeak working on a mac. Here are some basic questions of
which I didn't catch the answer although I've went through the posts
meticulously.
1. Do you have to turn VoiceOver off before you start emacspeak?
2. Can emacspaek work with the VoiceOver sub system and use the mac TTS
or do you have to use espeak?
3. Without actually running emacspeak is there a way to test all the
components separately?
4. Can emacspeak only work in the terminal version of emacs or could it
also work in a Cocoa version -- read something about Aqua Emacs ---
looks like a GUI version of emacs.
5. Has anyone managed to get emacspeak working on Leopard (OSX 10.5.8)?
6. Any other nifty programmers editors for Mac? My beloved VIM, both
terminal and GUI versions don't seem to play nicely with VoiceOver, or
shall I rather say VoiceOver doesn't seem to play nicely with them since
they are nice fellows!
7. I've asked before about a terminal program improvement over the
standard terminal app in Leopard, which also doesn't work properly with
VoiceOver. Any other ideas besides yassr and mactelnet?
8. Are there no full screen , basic terminal / console mode for OSX like
in linux Ctrl+Alt + F1 for which Braille or voice can work? When booting
and holding down Shift you get to a single user mode that is similar to
the linuc console, so this does exist although that one doesn't have speech.
9. A clever way to access a mac is of course via ssh -- saw Florian was
doing this -- but then again no emacspeak possible there.
10. I understand emacspeak provides a sort of networkable speech
protocol similar to X Windows which in theory would enable you to write
a speech server placed anywhere on your network. How well does this
really work? Could you for example ssh into a mac, set the speech up on
emacspeak to use a speech server on the computer you are ssh'ing from?
Many questions!
Thanks in advance for anyone attempting to answer some of these.
Kerns
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