Re: EdSharp and snippets
- From: "Mike Terry" <miketerry-lists@xxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:21:10 -0400
Jamal,
I just tried the Ctrl+J within the snippets list and it does improve the task
of selecting a snippet in a long list of them.
I took 30 seconds to read the documentation on tokens and am not sure that's
quite what I was trying to describe. In other ides I've tried to use, it was
refered to code completion or expansion. In the example I gave, the user would
press 5 keys to substitute the full snippet. So I'd be typing the letter "h",
"t", "m", "l", and then press a hot key. It's really just a desire for speed
when pounding out code. The less time it takes to perform the text
replacement, the less difficulty you have staying in the mental zone.
I don't think I've taken enough time to impress upon you how good EdSharp is in
my opinion. I've looked at many text editors and script language ides;
however, they all suffer when it comes to usability for someone who is blind.
At one point I stopped my search for a ruby/python/php editor/ide. I found
EdSharp and was quite happy; however, after several days of intense coding, I
found my self googling again, because snippets were getting in the way of my
thought process. Even though I found other editors with better support in this
area, after 20-30 minutes I found myself uninstalling and moving on. EdSharp
is the only one I've kept going back to.
Mike
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On 1/17/2008 at 12:54 PM Jamal Mazrui wrote:
>I appreciate the feedback, Mike.
>
>Note that you can use Control+J to jump to an item in a list-based
>dialog, specifying any text within the name of the item -- not just the
>initial letters. You can press Alt+J to jump again. That item will have
>focus the next time you enter the same dialog, e.g., the one for choosing
>a snippet to invoke.
>
>I think the Replace Tokens command, Control+Shift+Equals, is close to
>what you describe. I could probably tweak its functionality
>without a lot of work. If it does not operate quite how you would
>want, let me know what would help.
>
>Jamal
>ike modify itOn Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Mike
>Terry wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:25:46 -0400
>> From: Mike Terry <miketerry-lists@xxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: EdSharp and snippets
>>
>>
>> Jamal,
>>
>> I remember reading a post you made a while back in which you explained
>that the alt+v snippets list did not support incremental searching because
>of the way the control in the .net framework operates.
>>
>> have you considered an alternate form of snippet use. Several editors
>I've looked at will use the word under or immediately to the left of the
>caret to identify the snippet to expand. This seems much more natural to
>me. For example, I could start a new document, type "html" and press a
>hot key to have it replace the "html" with a full template with proper
>head and document type declaration. I would of course like the dialog
>prompting and all other facets of snippets, provided in EdSharp.
>>
>> If I were working with an unfamiliar list of snippets, then alt+v would
>allow me to easily see what snippets are currently available and choose
>one. However, once I became familiar with the builtin or my own snippet
>names, it would be much faster to just type the snippet name, press a key,
>and fill in any popup dialog.
>>
>> Just a suggestion/wish.
>>
>> Thanks for a great editor.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> P.S. I don't think I know c# nearly well enough to add this feature
>myself.
>>
>>
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