Re: Concern about the latest Window Eyes scripting move

  • From: "Richard Thomas" <rthomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:54:27 -0500

Ken:
I agree with you you old guru.
Besides the IML should be faster than scripts and what about a compiled 
language, faster still?
GW is opening up Com Objects they define as the method of using the scripts so 
the interface should limit some potential problems.
Also, Professionally developed Commercial scripts with a warranty would be the 
way to go for the applications I'd be interested in and what I would write if I 
can master the techniques.
I know you are one of the JAWS Scripting gurus and look forward to your 
comments as GW gets rolling.
Rick USA



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken Perry 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
  Subject: RE: Concern about the latest Window Eyes scripting move




   Well this is true depending on how they did it.  For example they can limit 
the objects a person can use no matter the language so if I only allow you to 
use System and System.Windows.Forms then that is it.  They most likely did not 
limit people so what will have to happen is people will either have to reject 
any scripts that are not open source or we will have to have a page to go to 
where tested and approved scripts are.

  I think this is going to cause other problems as well.  It sounds great that 
you can code in any language but the problem with being able to code in 
anything is there will not be any one support for the scripting language.  
Think of how much trouble people are having coding Jaws scripts when they get 
started.  Now they have added the decision of which language and made it so you 
don't have one unified group to help you access the objects they give you.  
True that if you know a language and know how to use com in that language it is 
a simple reading of the objects Window-eyes provides but most scripts are not 
wrote by professional coders they are wrote by people who need to be able to 
use a program that doesn't work.  Now it will take more for these people to 
find support in what ever they choose to use if they can find support.  It will 
be interesting to see how they support their scripting.

  If I was them I would say that GW micro as a whole supports VB and C# but you 
can code in anything.  Then they should put up a page that takes just those two 
languages and supports them as well as they can.  Further more they should 
force authors of the code to submit the code if they want the scripts on their 
page.  This would allow people to still sell scripts they just couldn't have it 
up on GW's page.

    

  Ken
  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Greer
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:55 AM
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Concern about the latest Window Eyes scripting move


  Once I got over the initial shock and amazement at GWMicro's decision to make 
Window Eyes scriptable.  Especially in such a powerful way as to let it be 
scriptable with many different scripting languages, I began to think.  Would 
that not also open Window Eyes and Windows up to a whole new world of script 
based viruses?  VBScript and Java Script are after all 2 of the languages that 
have that sort of power.  It just concerns me a bit that in GWMicro's rush to 
become the top screen reader, that they may have actually open the flood gates 
a bit too wide.

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