[program-l] Re: oracle and blind programmer

  • From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:56:32 +0100

Hi David,

The Oracle document did refer to 9I, although I suspect things will be improved in 2005, as back in 2004 Oracle joined the Visual Studio Partner Program.

Will
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lant" <david.lant@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:38 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: oracle and blind programmer



Hi Will,

It may just be that the Microsoft OLE DB drivers don't provide all the
functionality of the Oracle ones. I know there have been practical
differences in the past, including whether a cursor can be returned or not.
Also, I'm not sure if the MS drivers have been verified against Oracle 10 or
later.


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-----Original Message----- From: Will Pearson [mailto:will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 27 July 2005 15:19 To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-l] Re: oracle and blind programmer


Hi,

You should be able to get some of this functionality through the Server
Explorer already, at least if this document from Oracle is to be believed:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:3Go8jQCCO7sJ:www.oracle.com/technology/te
ch/windows/Oracle_dotnet.pdf+%2Boracle+%2B%22server+explorer%22+%2B%22visual
+studio%22+%2B2003+%2Btables&hl=en

I'm not a data dev, and so don't use databases that much, having never used
Oracle, but apparently there's quite a lot of functionality exposed through
the Server Explorer for Oracle 9I if you connect to it using the Microsoft
OLE DB provider for Oracle. Apparently this also extends to the VS Data
portions of the IDE, such as designing SQL statements, etc.


Will
----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Daubenmire" <justind@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:37 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: oracle and blind programmer



thanks for the follow up. Yes, I am finding that sql*plus is quite
accessible. I have also downloaded the Oracle Developer Tools for Visual
Studio .NET 10.1.0.4 and installed them for visual studio 2003. Under the
view menu is now an oracle server option that lets you connect to an
oracle db and presents tables, views, packages, stored procedures, all in
a tree view that is accessible to screen readers.

It is the exact funcationality that vs 2003 has for sql server dbs...
lets
you drag / drop tables onto forms, create tables, run sql statements, etc.

It is very nice from my initial investigation.

Justin



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: [program-l] Re: oracle and blind programmer


Hi Justin,

Oracle sql * plus is accessible with a screen reader. I have read
that
you can access other Oracle graphical tools but there are java and jaws
issues since Oracle uses a proprietory Java Virtual Machine. See
access.oracle.com for more information.

Oracle support is very helpful. The documentation is also very
accessible.

Pranav
on Tuesday 7/26/2005 01:38 PM, Ian Sharpe said:
Hi Justin,

I use the command line utility provided with Oracle, SQL*Plus to work
with
Oracle DBs. I have partial sight and use large fonts and a high contrast
colour scheme on Windows but suspect that being a command line utility
JFW
will work perfectly well with SQL*Plus.

If you're used to SQL Server I suspect there will be a pretty steep
learning
curve if you do decide to go with SQL*Plus as you get the most out of it
the
more you know. I haven't found anything easier to use or anything you
can't
do with it and together scripting it can be extremely powerful and
effecient
development environment.

I'm sure others who work with Oracle regularly will be able to
suggest perhaps more user friendly tools but at least there is one
option for you. It's always difficult when you are asked to move
outside your normal confort
zone and it's always nice I find to at least have one option available.

Good luck.
Cheers
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Daubenmire" <justind@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:01 AM
Subject: [program-l] oracle and blind programmer


> Hi. > > I'm new to the list but have been programming in .net for the past 2 years > using sql server 2000. I'm a blind developer and have been asked to use > oracle now. I have tried toad and it is not very accessible to my screen > reader JFW version 6. Is there any programmer on list that knows of some > accessible tools to interact with the oracle db to create tables, stored > procedures/packages, execute sql commands, see results, etc. > > Thanks if you can help! > > Justin > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq

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