[program-l] Re: IBM Lotus Symphony Far Better Than Open/Libre Office
- From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:23:15 -0800
With the latest editions of the JRE separate installation of te JAB is
no longer necessary, at least on win7 (I'm not sure about vista or xp)
Instead go to the Ease of Access center (win+u by default) bring up
the"Use the computer without a display link" and on that window is a
checkbox to enable the JAB. I'm not sure if that setting remains in
effect across java upgrades but regardless it is far easier than the
old manual JAB install.
Also, even if the above doesn't work, Jamal Mazrui has put out a
program that makes installing the JAB way easier than the manual file
copy: http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm
On 10/11/12, Kerneels Roos <kerneels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes Andy and James, I can remember that at least on Ubuntu Linux, Libre
> Office + Orca worked really well apart from stability issues now and
> then - especially with Base which I think was not very stable yet at
> that time.
>
> However, on WinXP 32 bit I have had great success with Open Office, with
> most if not all of the quirks encountered on Linux also showing up, but
> on Win7 there are so many additional problems that it is not a viable
> option.
>
> So something has gone wrong from WinXP to Win7 and from the old JAB to
> the version that Oracle released for 32 and 64 bit JREs.
>
> As a side note, does anyone know if the JAB keeps working after allowing
> the Oracle Auto Upater to update Java? I'm always saying NO because I
> don't want to go through all the effort of installing the JAB again :-)
>
> Cheers
> On 2012/10/10 05:57 PM, Andy B. wrote:
>> This is an interesting topic because in linux, some swing apps work just
>> fine, others don't even load, and others work wonders. It seems that
>> Libre
>> Office works wonders in linux, but is barely usable, and fragile at best
>> in
>> Windows. Does anyone know why this might be the case?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Corbett, James
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:03 AM
>> To: 'program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>> Subject: [program-l] Re: IBM Lotus Symphony Far Better Than Open/Libre
>> Office
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> You will find that most of the IBM offerings have been written using SWT
>> in
>> place of AWT / SWING for rendering widgets to a screen. The SWT approach
>> relies solely on the native widget tool kit and does not use the JAB for
>> any
>> of the accessibility aspects.
>>
>>
>> I've been developing JAVA Desktop solutions using SWT since 2005 and have
>> had great success with most of my applications. I use Eclipse as my IDE
>> which in turn is developed on the SWT framework.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos
>> Sent: October 10, 2012 10:54 AM
>> To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [program-l] IBM Lotus Symphony Far Better Than Open/Libre Office
>>
>> Hi List.
>>
>> Have not done a lot of work with it, but it appears that IBM Lotus
>> Symhony
>> (free office suite comparable with Open/Libre Office) works far better
>> with
>> NVDA on Win7 than the other two free options.
>>
>> I understand that Lotus Symphony use a different interface technology
>> which
>> is more accessible than the interface technology the other two office
>> suites
>> use. I've read somewhere that it also does not require the JAB to be
>> installed.
>>
>> I'm trying Lotus Symphony because I could not get any one of the other
>> two
>> guys working smoothly with NVDA. Access via the JAB was very fragile
>> - it would stop working very easily, requiring that I kill the two
>> soffice
>> processes before it would work again, and many times, while arrowing down
>> through documents speech would stop and I had to wait and arrow up before
>> arrowing down and hoping that speech would start again.
>>
>> I would love to support Libre Office but it just does not work nicely
>> with
>> NVDA. The problem is most likely with the JAB.
>>
>> This is not a programming post / question but it relates to the JAB which
>> is
>> relevant here. Anyone has more thoughts or suggestions about this?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> Kerneels Roos
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>>
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