Hi: You will find that most of the IBM offerings have been written using SWT in place of AWT / SWING for rendering widgets to a screen. The SWT approach relies solely on the native widget tool kit and does not use the JAB for any of the accessibility aspects. I've been developing JAVA Desktop solutions using SWT since 2005 and have had great success with most of my applications. I use Eclipse as my IDE which in turn is developed on the SWT framework. Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos Sent: October 10, 2012 10:54 AM To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-l] IBM Lotus Symphony Far Better Than Open/Libre Office Hi List. Have not done a lot of work with it, but it appears that IBM Lotus Symhony (free office suite comparable with Open/Libre Office) works far better with NVDA on Win7 than the other two free options. I understand that Lotus Symphony use a different interface technology which is more accessible than the interface technology the other two office suites use. I've read somewhere that it also does not require the JAB to be installed. I'm trying Lotus Symphony because I could not get any one of the other two guys working smoothly with NVDA. Access via the JAB was very fragile - it would stop working very easily, requiring that I kill the two soffice processes before it would work again, and many times, while arrowing down through documents speech would stop and I had to wait and arrow up before arrowing down and hoping that speech would start again. I would love to support Libre Office but it just does not work nicely with NVDA. The problem is most likely with the JAB. This is not a programming post / question but it relates to the JAB which is relevant here. Anyone has more thoughts or suggestions about this? Regards -- Kerneels Roos Cell: +27 (0)79 696 6038 Tel: +27 (0)811 2108 LinkedIn: http://za.linkedin.com/in/kerneels Skype: cornelis.roos ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq