I too have not used IE in quite a while. And do not see the need to use IE9. What I have noticed in the recent time is that more and more servers have been timed for broadband users only. Timeouts are happening more and more on dial-up than ever before. But these changes are subtle, with most resolutions being to disable the firewall, anti-phishing, anti virus, etc. just to make a clean enough connection between a dial-up modem and a web server. One day there may be universal broadband coverage, it might even coincide with universal acceptance of web standards and flying cars too ;) Peter Kaulback On 3/23/2011 6:34 AM, Hugh Vandervoort wrote: > I haven't used IE in years. Beside the security risks (Especially with > older versions) they have failed to innovate. Tabbed browsing and > extensions as well as compliance with web standards let FF and Chrome > outstrip IE many years ago. > One reason IE is finally becoming usable is the competition from FF > which lowered IE's market dramatically. > The last thing web designers need is yet another piece of code to > insert to save the people who hate change from themselves. I noticed > that designers gave up on saving IE 6.0 users. > Change is here to stay, and there's going to be a lot more in the future. > I'm still fooling with FF 4.0, but it looks good so far. > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin > <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> That's why "extorted" was in quotes........uhhhhh, SHOULD have >> been in quotes, LoL. (It is now). I couldn't think of what >> else to call it; when you go a webpage and are "attacked" by >> all these banners b!tching about you having an "outdated >> browser", when the only way to remove it is to "succumb to >> their demands", or else put up with the complaints. >> >> Someone needs to come up with some kind of a banner blocker >> that will also block those. I have no problem at all with some >> simple TEXT saying something like: "Some of our web features >> may not be available on older browsers" (which actually should >> never be the case anyway), but obnoxious banners, and actually >> BLOCKING users of older browsers, is uncalled for. YouTube WAS >> doing this, evidently they caught hell for it, and they finally >> did the intelligent thing and automatically direct certain >> browser versions to different page versions. >> >> I've been watching a thread on FF4, last I heard they (no >> surprise) REMOVED features that were present on 3.5x, and no >> doubt none of our extensions will work on it, and there's >> probably only a few of them that can be upgraded to work on v4. >> They'll never overtake IE until they put a stop to that crap >> and make extensions an integrated part of the Mozilla FF >> browser or put a stop to the version-proprietary-dependence of >> them. I'm sure extension developers are also fed up with >> having to make new versions with each FF release. It's VERY >> simple to make them work with any version, the majority of them >> CAN be made to do this with a hack, but it's time-consuming and >> should NOT be something the END USER should have to do, that >> should be up to Mozilla. >> >> If it can coexist with v3.5x, I'll probably install it just to >> see if it's any faster, and more stable. >> -Clint ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-