-=PCTechTalk=- Re: IS THIS TRUE?

  • From: "Lois Yaw" <jyaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:15:09 -0400

I loved the image of an idiot breaking windows....LOL
Lois Yaw
Hopewell, Ohio
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gman" <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:31 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: IS THIS TRUE?


> Don covered a good amount of this already, so I'll try to avoid rehashing
> most of those items.  The rest of my comments can be found below.
>
> Peace,
> Gman
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patricia" <rhekay@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "PCTechTalk" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:26 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- IS THIS TRUE?
>
>
>> Got this from another group....not that I will TRY this was just curious
>> as to if it's true?
>>
>>
>>      THIS PROGRAM AS SUCH WILL WIPE YOUR HD COMPLETE INCLUDING OS
>> (oPERATING sYSTEM)I DON'T KNOW WHO IS TRYING TO PULL ON MEMBERS. MAYBE
>> SOMEONE IS MAD AT THE GROUP FOR SOME REASON. MY EX-HUSBAND IS A 
>> PROGRAMMER
>> FOR THE UNITED STATES GOV AND HE FOLLOWED THESE STEPS AS A TEST TO MAKE
>> SURE AN IF IT WASN'T FOR HIS KNOWLEDGE IT WOULD HAVE WIPED OUT THE WHOLE
>> ssa MEDICARE SYSTEM. THIS ISN'T FUNNY
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> First of all, there's no program mentioned in any of this.  The procedure
> discussed below is nothing more than accessing parts of the hard drive 
> from
> a Command Prompt window which basically imitates DOS (although the actual
> commands and switches that are recognized differen in some respects).
> Secondly, I seriously doubt the story above.  No government programmer 
> would
> ever use a government computer to test an unknown procedure unless it was
> specifically set up for such tests (and the test system would not be
> connected to any network, let alone one that controls THE WHOLE ssa 
> MEDICARE
> SYSTEM).  So,at least to me, THAT'S FUNNY!!!  See more below.
>
>
>
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>>                      I found this on a web site, link below, It worked 
>> for
>> the guy who had origanally asked the question! Hope it works for you too!
>>
>>                      Good luck,
>>                      Maz
>>
>>                      Originally Posted by trickyt:
>>                      Don't worry, every file you ever created is still on
>> your hard disk! Even if you have deleted them, emptied the recycle bin 
>> and
>> written all over the disk. It is still ALL there. EVERY file you ever
>> created, deleted or not! It is just very hard to get at.
>>
>>                      This is an undocumented "feature" of Windows!!!!! 
>> !!!
>
>
>
> No, it's not.  It is undocumented, but it's not a feature at all.
>
>
>
>>
>>                      ALL THE FILES YOU EVER CREATED ARE THERE - INCLUDING
>> EVERY WEB PAGE YOU EVER VISITED, EVERY PHOTO YOU TOOK, EVERY SONG YOU
>> DOWNLOADED, AND OF COURSE ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS - INCLUDING THE DELTED ONES!
>>
>
>
>
> This part is true, but might as well be false.  When you delete a file, it
> is actually moved to the Recycle Bin folder and the first character of the
> filename is replaced with a placeholder character.  The info needed to
> restore the file is added to an index file that's hidden within the folder
> quoted below.  Files moves to the Recycle Bin will remain there
> indefinitely, as long as the maximum size of the Bin is not exceeded.  If
> you delete more than the Bin canhold, the oldest files will be permanently
> removed to make room for the newer files entering the Bin.   Once the hard
> drive space used by a permanently deleted file has been writen to with new
> data, the old data is essentially gone.  However, there are tools that 
> none
> of us will ever have the opportunity to use that are able to 
> microscopically
> detect the 'history' of bits on a hard drive platter.  Essentially, it's
> possible to get back data that has been overwritten by VERY closely
> examining the physical platters themselves.  However, none of this type of
> info is able to be retained by a hidden folder within Windows.
>
> Most of the info below is true.  I will interrupt the flow when they get 
> to
> the fantasy part.
>
>
>
>>
>>                      MICRO$OFT keeps these files well hidden. A hard disk
>> search will not find them. Explorer will deny their existence and even
>> deny the existence of the directory or folder in which they are located.
>> Even MS DOS will deny the existence of the folder where they are located.
>>
>>                      Follow these simple steps to see your deleted files
>> and to retrieve them.
>>
>>                      Click Run, select All Programs, go to Accessories,
>> and choose "command prompt".
>>
>>                      Now you are in a DOS window,
>
>
>
> For clarity's sake, you are actually in a Command Prompt window.  Although
> similar, it's not the same thing as DOS
>
>
>
>>
>>                      Type CD\
>>                      Type CD RECYCLER
>>                      (Now you are in an invisible folder called 
>> "Recycler)
>
>
>
> It's not invisible, it's Hidden.  And it's hidden so that folks like the 
> one
> who wrote this won't break Windows as often.
>
>
>
>>                      TYPE DIR /AD
>>                      Now you will see the name of your invisible folder.
>> It will be something like this:
>
>
>
> Hidden!
>
>
>
>>                      S-1-5-21-484763869- 790525478- 682003330- 1004
>>                      Change to this secret folder by typing
>
>
>
> Hidd ..., Oh I give up!       lol
>
>
>
>>                      CD S-1-5-21-484763869- 790525478- 682003330- 1004
>>                      (or whatever the secret name is that you see......)
>
>
>
> GRRR!
>
>
>
>>                      Now type DIR /P /S
>>                      (You will see a list of your files)
>
>
>
> The files you will see here are the ones that show up when you do a normal
> left click on your Recycle Bin.  The Bin stores them here in this Hidden,
> secret, invisible folder and shows you what it is holding as though the
> files were not treated with the procedure I roughly described above.  The
> reason for the invisible secret stuff is because these files are marked 
> for
> removal and are no longer protected files like all of the stuff you have
> outside the Recycle Bin.
>
>
>
>>                      Find the file you want, and note down the sub-folder
>> where it is hidden.
>>                      Now change to that folder - e.g. by typing CD DC1
>>                      (Warning, your deleted files may appear to have
>> changed name, but they are easily recognisable from their extensions 
>> (e.g.
>> .JPG for pictures, .DOC for Word files etc...)
>>                      Now Copy the files you want back to a location where
>> you can find them. e.g. to copy them to the TEMP directory type COPY *.*
>> C:\TEMP\*.* (This will copy all files from the current folder to the
>> C;/TEMP folder.
>>                      To copy just the JPG files type
>>                      COPY *.JPG C:\TEMP\*.*
>>
>>                      Now you have it. Your Deleted files are restored!!!!
>> !!!
>
>
>
> Or, you could click on the Recycle Bin, find the file you accidentally
> deleted and Restore it from there.          LOL
>
>
>
>>
>>                      Here is the link to the web site i was on...
>>
>> http://www.anetforums.com/posts.aspx?ThreadIndex=29625
>
>
>
> The above link was broken on the original post, so I fixed it.  I also 
> went
> there and discovered that this was posted by a newbie in response to 
> another
> newbie's question about some deleted files.  It worked for the person with
> the problem because they were trying to recover deleted files from a User
> acocunt different from the one used to delete the files.  The Bin assigned 
> a
> different super invisible folder for each User account and you're not
> supposed to be recovering stuff from one acocunt within a different one.
> It's simply not designed for that.
>
> I will never suggest to anyone that they try this in order to recover any
> files.  It does work, but there is a MUCH, MUCH easier way that doesn't
> involve secret invisible folders or the Command Prompt.       :O)
>
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