-=PCTechTalk=- Re: IS THIS TRUE?
- From: Gman <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:31:58 -0400
Don covered a good amount of this already, so I'll try to avoid rehashing
most of those items. The rest of my comments can be found below.
Peace,
Gman
"The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia" <rhekay@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "PCTechTalk" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- IS THIS TRUE?
> Got this from another group....not that I will TRY this was just curious
> as to if it's true?
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> THIS PROGRAM AS SUCH WILL WIPE YOUR HD COMPLETE INCLUDING OS
> (oPERATING sYSTEM)I DON'T KNOW WHO IS TRYING TO PULL ON MEMBERS. MAYBE
> SOMEONE IS MAD AT THE GROUP FOR SOME REASON. MY EX-HUSBAND IS A PROGRAMMER
> FOR THE UNITED STATES GOV AND HE FOLLOWED THESE STEPS AS A TEST TO MAKE
> SURE AN IF IT WASN'T FOR HIS KNOWLEDGE IT WOULD HAVE WIPED OUT THE WHOLE
> ssa MEDICARE SYSTEM. THIS ISN'T FUNNY
>
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>
First of all, there's no program mentioned in any of this. The procedure
discussed below is nothing more than accessing parts of the hard drive from
a Command Prompt window which basically imitates DOS (although the actual
commands and switches that are recognized differen in some respects).
Secondly, I seriously doubt the story above. No government programmer would
ever use a government computer to test an unknown procedure unless it was
specifically set up for such tests (and the test system would not be
connected to any network, let alone one that controls THE WHOLE ssa MEDICARE
SYSTEM). So,at least to me, THAT'S FUNNY!!! See more below.
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> I found this on a web site, link below, It worked for
> the guy who had origanally asked the question! Hope it works for you too!
>
> Good luck,
> Maz
>
> Originally Posted by trickyt:
> Don't worry, every file you ever created is still on
> your hard disk! Even if you have deleted them, emptied the recycle bin and
> written all over the disk. It is still ALL there. EVERY file you ever
> created, deleted or not! It is just very hard to get at.
>
> This is an undocumented "feature" of Windows!!!!! !!!
No, it's not. It is undocumented, but it's not a feature at all.
>
> ALL THE FILES YOU EVER CREATED ARE THERE - INCLUDING
> EVERY WEB PAGE YOU EVER VISITED, EVERY PHOTO YOU TOOK, EVERY SONG YOU
> DOWNLOADED, AND OF COURSE ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS - INCLUDING THE DELTED ONES!
>
This part is true, but might as well be false. When you delete a file, it
is actually moved to the Recycle Bin folder and the first character of the
filename is replaced with a placeholder character. The info needed to
restore the file is added to an index file that's hidden within the folder
quoted below. Files moves to the Recycle Bin will remain there
indefinitely, as long as the maximum size of the Bin is not exceeded. If
you delete more than the Bin canhold, the oldest files will be permanently
removed to make room for the newer files entering the Bin. Once the hard
drive space used by a permanently deleted file has been writen to with new
data, the old data is essentially gone. However, there are tools that none
of us will ever have the opportunity to use that are able to microscopically
detect the 'history' of bits on a hard drive platter. Essentially, it's
possible to get back data that has been overwritten by VERY closely
examining the physical platters themselves. However, none of this type of
info is able to be retained by a hidden folder within Windows.
Most of the info below is true. I will interrupt the flow when they get to
the fantasy part.
>
> MICRO$OFT keeps these files well hidden. A hard disk
> search will not find them. Explorer will deny their existence and even
> deny the existence of the directory or folder in which they are located.
> Even MS DOS will deny the existence of the folder where they are located.
>
> Follow these simple steps to see your deleted files
> and to retrieve them.
>
> Click Run, select All Programs, go to Accessories,
> and choose "command prompt".
>
> Now you are in a DOS window,
For clarity's sake, you are actually in a Command Prompt window. Although
similar, it's not the same thing as DOS
>
> Type CD\
> Type CD RECYCLER
> (Now you are in an invisible folder called "Recycler)
It's not invisible, it's Hidden. And it's hidden so that folks like the one
who wrote this won't break Windows as often.
> TYPE DIR /AD
> Now you will see the name of your invisible folder.
> It will be something like this:
Hidden!
> S-1-5-21-484763869- 790525478- 682003330- 1004
> Change to this secret folder by typing
Hidd ..., Oh I give up! lol
> CD S-1-5-21-484763869- 790525478- 682003330- 1004
> (or whatever the secret name is that you see......)
GRRR!
> Now type DIR /P /S
> (You will see a list of your files)
The files you will see here are the ones that show up when you do a normal
left click on your Recycle Bin. The Bin stores them here in this Hidden,
secret, invisible folder and shows you what it is holding as though the
files were not treated with the procedure I roughly described above. The
reason for the invisible secret stuff is because these files are marked for
removal and are no longer protected files like all of the stuff you have
outside the Recycle Bin.
> Find the file you want, and note down the sub-folder
> where it is hidden.
> Now change to that folder - e.g. by typing CD DC1
> (Warning, your deleted files may appear to have
> changed name, but they are easily recognisable from their extensions (e.g.
> .JPG for pictures, .DOC for Word files etc...)
> Now Copy the files you want back to a location where
> you can find them. e.g. to copy them to the TEMP directory type COPY *.*
> C:\TEMP\*.* (This will copy all files from the current folder to the
> C;/TEMP folder.
> To copy just the JPG files type
> COPY *.JPG C:\TEMP\*.*
>
> Now you have it. Your Deleted files are restored!!!!
> !!!
Or, you could click on the Recycle Bin, find the file you accidentally
deleted and Restore it from there. LOL
>
> Here is the link to the web site i was on...
>
> http://www.anetforums.com/posts.aspx?ThreadIndex=29625
The above link was broken on the original post, so I fixed it. I also went
there and discovered that this was posted by a newbie in response to another
newbie's question about some deleted files. It worked for the person with
the problem because they were trying to recover deleted files from a User
acocunt different from the one used to delete the files. The Bin assigned a
different super invisible folder for each User account and you're not
supposed to be recovering stuff from one acocunt within a different one.
It's simply not designed for that.
I will never suggest to anyone that they try this in order to recover any
files. It does work, but there is a MUCH, MUCH easier way that doesn't
involve secret invisible folders or the Command Prompt. :O)
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