My turn to rant:~ ) I am really tired of attempting to help different ones on this group & never receiving a response. My attempts are not long affairs. I don't scattershoot problems. I ask questions. I try to get to the heart of the problem. Maybe I'm not as smart as these other guys but I want to completely understand the problem & its causatives, so I need your input. Computers are not toasters. They are unique in some respects to each user. If you want quick fixes, go to an allopathic doc & ask for a pill. If you appreciate the help EACH of us try's to give than please respond. I have seen too much "ink" & time & effort wasted because the true problem was not understood. Rant over. -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.