[pasmembers] Re: Sign up for Paid star parties - discusssion
- From: Terry Dancer <tmranger86@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:20:55 -0700
Eric, does 22" include length? Lol
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> On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Don, I understand why Terri usually goes first, but here’s another way we
> could approach it. We could pay the Event Coordinator a modest stipend.
> The amount of work, level of commitment and sheer responsibility to the club
> are the kind of thing often associated with a paid position. I’d have no
> trouble with that and it’s much less hit-or-miss than just grabbing jobs.
> What do other people think? Are there legal ramifications? Sam?
>
> Eric
>
> Ps. Oh and while we’re at it, members who own 22” and greater scopes should
> probably get paid too.
>
> From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Boyd
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:47 PM
> To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pasmembers] Re: Sign up for Paid star parties - discusssion
>
> I agree it is long over due. And I also agree that the person who declines
> should go to the top of the list.
>
> I can see Terri always being first as she does a lot of work setting up
> events...for no pay. If any one else wants to do her job... But I don't think
> William should be included in the deal, he should have to fight for his work
> just like anybody else.
>
> Don
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi –
>
> First of all I think it’s an excellent (and overdue) idea. First though, I
> would say unequivocally that a person unable to do a specific event should be
> put back at the TOP of the list. Putting them at the bottom seems highly
> punitive since people who decline paying jobs usually do so for very good
> reasons. The other way, if for some reason you can’t do a job, it may be a
> very long time before you get one again. That’s not fair.
>
> Secondly, if we are going to have a rotation, EVERYONE should be in it. I
> know I am not the only one who is frustrated at seeing “Job X, $100 per
> scope, etc.” along with “A, B and C are taking this job” before it’s even
> opened for RSVP’s.
>
> I agree, of course, the specific customer requests should be honored.
>
> Otherwise, again, great idea, Sam.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
> From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:14 PM
> To: PAS Members ListServ
> Subject: [pasmembers] Sign up for Paid star parties - discusssion
>
> I have to send this out through PASmembers list because the Star Tours list
> is a NO POST - Announcement Only list. So, the discussion will be here.
>
> Sam brought up a good idea and we are looking for input about it before I put
> this plan into affect.
>
> The issue is that when I post a "JOB" meaning a Paid event, some people are
> able to get signed up for them quicker than others (not counting me). I post
> it, I can sign up right away, or decline it right away.
>
> So, Sam proposes that we make a rotating list. On the list will be the
> PAStimes Star Tour members who are actively doing star parties for $$. And
> when a new event comes to my attention, I ask the next star tour member in
> line, on that list, if they can cover that event. If they can, they are put
> on the approved list. If they can't, they get put at the bottom of the list
> to run through it again. WE currently have, I think 12 members on the list -
> 10 if you don't count William and me.
> So, the 10 of you would cycle through, allowing each member an equal chance
> to do an event.
>
> So, let's say that the order is
>
> Kevin
> Howard
> Eric
> Sam
>
> and we get an event for 3 scopes (not counting schools and scout events).
>
> Kevin and Howard can do the date in question but Eric can't, but the three of
> them get asked. Eric declines,
> Sam takes his place, Eric is then moved to the bottom of the list and cycle
> through again.
>
> Sam writes:
> Terri, what I would like to suggest is that when you get a high paying star
> tours gig , like $100 per scope or more, then we have a rotating list of our
> star tours people. This way, it is totally fair, and we each get a shot,
> rather than have you announce a high paying gig and have it already filled.
> For example, if a customer wants 3 scopes and it pays $100 or more per scope,
> then you refer to the star tours list and the next 3 people get first crack
> at it. If someone can't take it , it goes to the 4th person on the list.
> Then, the next gig goes to the next person in line.
>
> Now, the person who declined, do they go to the top of the list or the
> bottom? What do you think is fair? Do they get first shot at the next job
> that comes along?
>
> Give me your input. Let's discuss this.
> Everyone will be on that list except William and me.
> If i do a paid event, I will have William with me, but we will
> not always do 2 scopes. So, we may both attend but only do 1 scope at that
> job, depends on what we are needed for.
>
> Thanks for your input and thank you Sam for coming up with an idea to make
> this more fair. So, i await everyone's input, whether you are on the Star
> Tours team or not. I"d just like to get some input.
>
> One thing to keep in mind.... There are certain jobs where the size of the
> scope matters. And there are jobs where they request certain scopes, such as
> Eric's 22" or Bruce's 20" from past events they have attended. If they do, we
> go with what is requested first, then open it to the rest of the Team members.
> And Mike, if he is requested, gets the job, if he can attend.
>
> So, send me input. What do you think of this plan. We have enough scopes that
> rotating them like this, would make a good way to give everyone a chance to
> make some extra income to pay for your equipment upgrades. I"m all for this
> idea.
>
> Terri
>
> Thanks again Sam.
> We will implement this plan by the end of this month. So, set the discussion
> in motion and by Oct 31, i want to know we have a this or some other idea
> organized.
>
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