[pasmembers] Re: Sign up for Paid star parties - discusssion
- From: Terri <starstuff@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: PAS Members ListServ <pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:47:40 -0700
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Don Boyd <azphotog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree it is long over due. And I also agree that the person who declines
> should go to the top of the list.
>
> I can see Terri always being first as she does a lot of work setting up
> events...for no pay. If any one else wants to do her job... But I don't
> think William should be included in the deal, he should have to fight for
> his work just like anybody else.
>
> Don
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi –
>>
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>> First of all I think it’s an excellent (and overdue) idea. First though,
>> I would say unequivocally that a person unable to do a specific event
>> should be put back at the TOP of the list. Putting them at the bottom
>> seems highly punitive since people who decline paying jobs usually do so
>> for very good reasons. The other way, if for some reason you can’t do a
>> job, it may be a very long time before you get one again. That’s not fair.
>>
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>> Secondly, if we are going to have a rotation, EVERYONE should be in it.
>> I know I am not the only one who is frustrated at seeing “Job X, $100 per
>> scope, etc.” along with “A, B and C are taking this job” before it’s even
>> opened for RSVP’s.
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>> I agree, of course, the specific customer requests should be honored.
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>> Otherwise, again, great idea, Sam.
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>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
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>> *From:* pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Terri
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:14 PM
>> *To:* PAS Members ListServ
>> *Subject:* [pasmembers] Sign up for Paid star parties - discusssion
>>
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>> I have to send this out through PASmembers list because the Star Tours
>> list is a NO POST - Announcement Only list. So, the discussion will be here.
>>
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>> Sam brought up a good idea and we are looking for input about it before I
>> put this plan into affect.
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>> The issue is that when I post a "JOB" meaning a Paid event, some people
>> are able to get signed up for them quicker than others (not counting me). I
>> post it, I can sign up right away, or decline it right away.
>>
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>> So, Sam proposes that we make a rotating list. On the list will be the
>> PAStimes Star Tour members who are actively doing star parties for $$. And
>> when a new event comes to my attention, I ask the next star tour member in
>> line, on that list, if they can cover that event. If they can, they are put
>> on the approved list. If they can't, they get put at the bottom of the list
>> to run through it again. WE currently have, I think 12 members on the list
>> - 10 if you don't count William and me.
>>
>> So, the 10 of you would cycle through, allowing each member an equal
>> chance to do an event.
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>> So, let's say that the order is
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>> Kevin
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>> Howard
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>> Eric
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>> Sam
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>> and we get an event for 3 scopes (not counting schools and scout events).
>>
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>> Kevin and Howard can do the date in question but Eric can't, but the
>> three of them get asked. Eric declines,
>>
>> Sam takes his place, Eric is then moved to the bottom of the list and
>> cycle through again.
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>> Sam writes:
>>
>> Terri, what I would like to suggest is that when you get a high paying
>> star tours gig , like $100 per scope or more, then we have a rotating list
>> of our star tours people. This way, it is totally fair, and we each get a
>> shot, rather than have you announce a high paying gig and have it already
>> filled. For example, if a customer wants 3 scopes and it pays $100 or more
>> per scope, then you refer to the star tours list and the next 3 people get
>> first crack at it. If someone can't take it , it goes to the 4th person on
>> the list. Then, the next gig goes to the next person in line.
>>
>>
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>> Now, the person who declined, do they go to the top of the list or the
>> bottom? What do you think is fair? Do they get first shot at the next job
>> that comes along?
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>> Give me your input. Let's discuss this.
>>
>> Everyone will be on that list except William and me.
>>
>> If i do a paid event, I will have William with me, but we will
>>
>> not always do 2 scopes. So, we may both attend but only do 1 scope at
>> that job, depends on what we are needed for.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your input and thank you Sam for coming up with an idea to
>> make this more fair. So, i await everyone's input, whether you are on the
>> Star Tours team or not. I"d just like to get some input.
>>
>>
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>> One thing to keep in mind.... There are certain jobs where the size of
>> the scope matters. And there are jobs where they request certain scopes,
>> such as Eric's 22" or Bruce's 20" from past events they have attended. If
>> they do, we go with what is requested first, then open it to the rest of
>> the Team members.
>>
>> And Mike, if he is requested, gets the job, if he can attend.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, send me input. What do you think of this plan. We have enough scopes
>> that rotating them like this, would make a good way to give everyone a
>> chance to make some extra income to pay for your equipment upgrades. I"m
>> all for this idea.
>>
>>
>>
>> Terri
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>> Thanks again Sam.
>>
>> We will implement this plan by the end of this month. So, set the
>> discussion in motion and by Oct 31, i want to know we have a this or some
>> other idea organized.
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>> --
>>
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