Re: pricing
- From: Seth Miller <sethmiller.sm@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:06:32 -0600
Brian,
This is probably the most difficult part about buying Oracle software. I
would highly advise against trying to do this on your own. I have seen too
many companies try to navigate Oracle licensing on their own and end up in
an audit with Oracle years later. Then they do stuff like charge you
retroactively for features you never used but never disabled.
Talk to a reputable partner. They will be able to answer these questions.
The partner will probably be able to save you more than what they cost
through negotiations as well.
Seth Miller
On Monday, November 24, 2014, Zelli, Brian <Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Ok, it seems that the processor licensing looks to be the way to go but
> how do you figure that out? I’m looking at all these charts and none of it
> is making any sense. They talk processors, and we talk cores and cpus.
> What’s what? From my unix guy he says 2 cpus and 2 cores. So I multiplied
> to 4. How does that convert to processors?
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> *From:* MARK BRINSMEAD [mailto:mark.brinsmead@xxxxxxxxx
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> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 1:47 PM
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> Hold on there. Its nowhere near that easy.
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> There is a per-processor MINIMUM for named-user-plus licensing. For EE
> products, the minimum is 25 named users per processor, which works out in
> most cases to 50% the price of CPU licenses. That -- of course -- is a
> *minimum*. There is *no maximum*.
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> Further, the rules for who/what constitutes a "named user" are less than
> simple. Under Oracle's rules, when you use "multiplexing" devices (e.g.,
> TP monitors, like "Tuxedo", or web-based application servers) you must
> count the users on the *outside* of the multiplexing device.
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> In an extreme case, this means that if you have applications running on an
> internet-accessible web server that accesses your database, you could be
> required to license about *seven billion* named users, even though the
> web server has only a single database connection and uses only a single
> database account.
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> When licensing EE products, I think it may be wiser to purchase CPU
> licenses rather than named-user licenses. It is far easier to demonstrate
> compliance with CPU licenses, and the upside to named users (a maximum 50%
> cost saving) is often outweighed by the potential downside (basically
> unlimited license liability).
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> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Zelli, Brian <Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
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> Ok, it has been a while since I had to price out the oracle licensing.
> When I go the oracle website, it shows me two options, Processor or Named
> User. Is that still correct? We were on Named User and probably wish to
> stay on that. So it says that Named User is $950 per user. So none of
> the cpu, cores or other internals matter? Just the $950 times the quantity
> will be my price?
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