I think professional conference format and quality from RDBMS vendors are fair game for discussion on this list. Especially when they could be considered as much a vendor "product" as customer support, training and software. I know they are often heavily attended, well-marketed, and much time and effort goes into their presentation. Very few enterprise DBA are strictly Oracle anymore. While I would never deny that it doesn't occur quite regularly at Oracle events as well, there seems to be quite a bit more vendor parroting and cheerleading at Microsoft events. I have seen quite probing and critical reviews of Oracle software even at OOW. I wonder if that would ever occur at a Microsoft event? Would they let a MAC guy speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Freeman" <robertgfreeman@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>, oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 1:24:47 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: Slightly OT: SQL Server conference vs. Oracle conferences... Much smaller than OOW. There are 14 sessions running in parallel. There are about 4 of these parallel tracks during the day. Robert G. Freeman Oracle ACE -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l