Re: Oracle Enterprise Manager and the 4K block size
- From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Dunbar, Norman (Capgemini)" <norman.dunbar.capgemini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:11:14 +0100
I'm somewhat in 2 minds to be honest. In general I think it's an excellent
product for database management and does things that script based monitoring
often doesn't do - security config checking for example. It also absolutely
does help adminstrators who aren't necessarily au-fait with a particular
technology get up to speed (in the sense that they can administer
accurately) quickly, my counter to Jared's excellent example would be to
take a fresh college grad give them EM and the DBA 1.0 guys scripts and a
straightforward entry level dba task and see how they got on, anyone who has
had to suddenly look after, say, Oracle Application Server will appreciate
this. Finally the system/service driven management approach is exactly how
infrastructure monitoring systems should work, they shouldn't be component
driven but business driven. I think that Oracle's product is reasonably
market leading in this respect.
Against this I'd set
1) 12 SRs to install and configure is about 10 or so too many.
2) Some of the configuration choices are obscure and overcomplicated "add
these .jar files to the classpath of the agent and restart.... "
3) The interface is still inconsistent.
4) Licensing. This client won't go with all of the monitoring options
available because frankly they could equip and staff an entire IT operations
centre for the fees Oracle was proposing. They already have the database
packs by the way.
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Dunbar, Norman (Capgemini) <
norman.dunbar.capgemini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Niall,
>
> >> As it happens I'm in the middle - well near the end actually
> >> - of a Grid Control installation for a company that has
> >> invested quite heavily in the Oracle product stack....
>
> <SNIP Gory Details>
>
> So, summing up, is it (EM/GC) *really* fit for purpose yet?
>
> I'm a bit behind the times as I'm still looking after 734 and 9.2.x
> systems with a small smattering of 10.2.x on top, but plans are afoot to
> migrate everything (hooray) to 11g "some time real soon".
>
> I've also tended to avoid EM for many years - basically since they
> switched from a half decent (C?) implementation to Java. I'm wondering
> if I should try using it again yet?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norman.
>
> Norman Dunbar
> Contract Senior Oracle DBA
> Capgemini Database Team (EA)
> Internal : 7 28 2051
> External : 0113 231 2051
>
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