my favorite metric is percent done. This way managers can fill out there MS Project Plans with ever increasing numbers. Ever notice that projects that are in a hurry to increment percent done, spend 90% of their time being 90% done? your often better off sitting at 10% done, nailing down the requirements and design, then continuing on. You can often get the work done faster and it costs less to maintain. how many times have i heard 'we don't have time for design, just start coding'. I think its partially because the client wants to see 'milestones' and you can have alot of coding milestones(and you may get a bonus for reaching milestones early)... even if the code is bad and the application doesn't work. -------------- Original message -------------- > add pictures, too > > > >From: ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Reply-To: ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx > >To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: Re: Impressing your boss > >Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:29:45 +0000 > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l