Brian, As I hear it that company was known for unintelligible mumbo-jumbo which caused the resulting troubles. What should you do to impress your boss? Nothing. You got the job didn't you? Therefore you've already impressed him/her. Now get on with what they hired you for, a nice stable, predictable, and error free database. In our profession sometimes "silence is golden".=20 Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- From: Spears, Brian [mailto:BSpears@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:06 PM To: ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Impressing your boss I (and about 5 other DBA's) spent about a year trying to get management to stop believing a Hollywood style developer...mumbo jumbo coming out of his ears. He impressed the boss till about a year later when all the mumbo jumbo proved to be false and without any substance. The company waisted 1/2 million on this mumbo jumbo. The company was enron.=20 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:30 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Impressing your boss managers love metrics. Come up with some completely irrelevant statistics to do a 'db health check'. Show that these numbers are horrible. Then make some completely irrelevant change and show your boss the same irrelevant metrics and proclaim that the db is now healthy.=20 Spit out some archaic and jumbled techno-babble so that noone has any idea what you are talking about(they will assume you are smart, because only smart people talk like that).=20 this actually works... its also useful to get managers to go away when they get annoying.=20 -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l