Oddly enough, a search of the LG web site turned up no ATSC receivers other than those in integrated TVs. No PVRs and no STBs, old or new. Circuit City has reduced the price of the LG LST 3410A to $419, but again, that's an old design from early 2004. Not a bad price, considering they used to retail for $999. Looks like another clearance sale. But here's a third party making an interesting USB PVR using the LG 5th generation chip. http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/ONAIRUSB-HDTV.html http://usbstuff.com/onair.html If LG allows this, you'd think they'd let regular ole STB manufacturers use their demod. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.