Hi Ralph /Donald thanks a lot to both of you do you mean that license cost for MPEG-4 can be avoided or it's not required to pay the license cost for MPEG-4 if it's implemented using a software and DSP processor ? and one has to pay the license cost only if it's implemented on chip by hardware ? btw , what typically is the license cost that one has to pay for MPEG-4 ? any pointers from where i can get this information ? i actually wanted to understanding the performance etc trade offs that one needs to consider while choosing either software/DSP processor based decoder implementation or chip/hardware based implementation of MPEG-4 .......any inputs for the same would be highely appretiated warm regards , Prashant Desai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph P. Manfredo" <rmanfredo@xxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Pros/Cons of DSP processor based MPEG software decoder or hardware based MPEG decoder > Donald: > > Donald: > > That is a good and quick response to the question. However, I believe you > left out a couple of very important reasons as to the why the H.264 has not > been implemented in chip form yet. One has to do with the time it takes to > go from standard release to a released chip. That is why the software > versions are out now I believe. Second and I believe is more important is > the cost to deliver and view a program that is MPEG-4 H.264 compliant due to > the total licensing costs. These costs are a significant factor I believe > and MPEG-LA and their outrageous licensing scheme may kill MPEG-4. I don't > believe consumers in general will accept the higher costs to watch a MPEG-4 > program vs. an MPEG-2 program. This of course is my opinion, but I am part > of a next generation entertainment system standards committee, and we are > seriously considering scrapping MPEG-4 due to the high licensing costs to > view a program. These costs presently outweigh the advantage saved by > storage requirements as disc drive costs are coming down and capacity is > going up and this is a one time cost. > > Ralph > > Ralph P. Manfredo > President & CEO > > rmanfredo@xxxxxxxx > > ************************************************************************ > BroadBand Networks Corporation > 2530 Berryessa Road, No. 237 > San Jose, CA 95050 > > Phone: 408.988.2060 > Fax: 408.988.2188 > > www.bbnc.com > > Leaders in MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 video over ATM and IP Networks > ************************************************************************ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Donald Koeleman > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:35 AM > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Pros/Cons of DSP processor based MPEG software > decoder or hardware based MPEG decoder > > MPEG 2 MP@ML decoder chips are generaly all hardware, the technology on > these chips has matured over the past decade and there is no real need to > update the decoding capabilities after the box leaves the factory. MPEG 4 > Main profile standard definition decoders are available in hardware, however > anything newer or higher spec, like H.264 or WM9/VC1 uses software codecs. > Several reasons, largely to do with economies of scale, as numbers are still > relatively small. Codecs are still under development, so generations of > capability sets replace eachother quite rapidly, so no time to design and > build a hardware implementation and recoup cost. The market is still split > between MPEG and Microsoft, and large operators are still making up their > minds as wich platform to choose and current service providers do not want > to be locked in right at the start of the development of this technology. > > Donald > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Prashant Desai" <prashant.desai@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:25 PM > Subject: [opendtv] Pros/Cons of DSP processor based MPEG software decoder or > hardware based MPEG decoder > > > Hello All > i am new to this digital content would , i would like to know and > understand the Pros/Cons of different methods of implementation of the > MPEG -4 , MPEG-2 decoder is better compared to the other . > > Based on my current understanding there are two ways by which the MPEG-4 > /MPEG-2 decoder's can be implemented the first method is using a combo of > DSP processor and software implementation of MPEG-4/2 decoder whereas the > other is to implement the full hardware based MPEG-4/2 decoder , i think > it's always better to have 100% hardware based > decoder from performance point of view , i dont know what are the advantages > of using a software based MPEG-4/2 decoder on the top of DSP processor > .......... > > i would be really grateful if you guys can provide your opinions and imputs > in this regard > > warm regards, > Prashant Desai > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.