The definition is pretty illogical. When I ran an LPTV station, I could tune into PAL-B BBC news feeds (there was at least one a day) and I could watch them -- after a fashion -- on my NTSC set. After a fashion? Well, there was no chroma (like Cliff's Admiral set) and the top of the screen seemed to fold back to show doubled scan lines, but I could make ample sense of the broadcast, and could even hear the audio. Every five to 10 seconds, the whole picture would roll once. In other words, my NTSC setup could "deal with" PAL. If we applied the CEA's HDTV criteria to this case, I had a PAL system! Sure was a lot cheaper than a $2000+ multiformat VCR (which could have done the conversion much better.) John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark Schubin Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:55 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: One Out of Every Four Sets Sold In 2004 Will Be An HDTV So, does that make a 640 x 480 4:3 LCD TV with an NTSC tuner an HDTV? It's counted as a DTV if it has an input that can deal with 480p. TTFN, Mark -----Original Message----- From: John Golitsis <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Aug 26, 2004 9:41 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: One Out of Every Four Sets Sold In 2004 Will Be An HDTV There isn't a 'DTV' display out there (that I know of) that won't at least accept an HDTV signal. I don't know of any CRT-based sets that accept an HD signal, but only scan at 31.5kHz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Schubin" <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > 2. For CEA to count a display as "DTV" it need only be capable of > dealing with 480p. If an NTSC TV has its horizontal scanning circuitry > modified to deal with a 31.5 kHz line rate instead of 15.75, I believe > CEA will count it as DTV. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.