I can only name one that I know for certain can be counted as an HDTV set because with it's factory built-in tuners,=20 it can tune in a free off air HDTV broadcast and display it in 1080i. The RCA F38310. http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:RCA%20F38310%20Television:1990605945:page=3Dd= etails If it doesn't have an ATSC tuner, even if it can display an HDTV signal = properly, it's NOT an HDTV set. -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Golitsis Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:57 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: One Out of Every Four Sets Sold In 2004 Will Be An HDTV As I've asked before, please name one product that has been counted as a = "DTV=20 Display" that you feel should not have been. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Cliff Benham" <cliff.benham@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > The problem with today's situation is the poor CEA definition of what = =3D > constitutes > a DTV set. It's pretty loose in that there's just the requirement of = the > ability to "display" 480p or 1080i. > > The reason they did this was to be able to inflate the statistics of = the =3D > number of=3D20 > "DTV" sets that have been "sold."=3D20 > Another problem: They count sales to dealers,=3D20 > not sales to consumers.=3D20 =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at = FreeLists.org=20 - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word = unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.