[opendtv] Re: Linear streams
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:05:19 -0400
On Jul 18, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Albert Manfredi <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Wrong again, Craig. What you get by TVE depends entirely on the bundling
options you have on that facilities-based MVPD you're subject to, not to
mention agreements made between your specific MVPD and the content owners.
Get it now?
You are saying the same thing I said. To access a TVE site you must be
subscribed to the linear channel(s) for that source through your MVPD. You are
correct that bundles may vary from one MVPD to another, but that is irrelevant;
the test is whether you are paying for the source operating the TVE site. The
agreements between MVPD and the source operating the TVE site are necessary to
support authentication.
Get it now?
Why is this so hard to understand? The Internet delivery is slaved to the
limits and constraints of some totally unrelated medium.
No Bert it is slaved to a totally RELATED medium and supplier of content.
Your friend Mr. Skipper at ESPN supports the business model where ESPN is part
of the extended basic bundles offered by MVPDs around the country, the DBS
services, and now a Virtual MVPD, Sling. And he Is taking ESPN content to the
Internet via Watch ESPN, a TVE service that is ONLY available to homes that
subscribe to a MVPD bundle that includes ESPN.
Got it?
Therefore, what you get for TVE from one MVPD will be different from your TVE
options from another MVPD.
Yes Bert, I have explained this too many times to count.
Here, Craig, read how TVE works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Everywhere
"TV Everywhere systems utilize accounts provided by a user's respective
television provider—which are used to verify whether the user is a subscriber
to a particular channel, thus allowing or denying access to the content."
Correct. I have said the same thing at least a dozen times.
In effect, this attempts to force-fit the MVPD walled garden model onto a
medium over which there is no technical need to bundle in that manner. It's
an artificiality placed over the unwalled Internet.
No Bert, there is nothing artificial about it. It is a business decision. And
it is a migration strategy. A customer that is already paying for the content
now gains access to that content source via a companion OTT service.
If there is no inconsistency, it is because your statement was flat wrong.
Like the Wikipedia article says, the TVE package you get depends entirely on
your MVPD bundling options which you are subscribed to.
The Wikipedia article says nothing about a "TVE package" Bert, because no such
package exists. There are two requirements to access any TVE service:
1. You must subscribe to the linear channel(s) from a MVPD;
2. Your MVPD must operate an authentication server that a TVE site uses to
verify that you are paying for their content.
Each TVE service is independent and operated by the content owner.
That's funny. Until now, you didn't understand. Finally, you do.
No Bert, I have been entirely consistent about this for weeks. You are the one
who keeps arguing that TVe is something it is not.
"The point" that you finally grasped is the point I've been making all along.
TVE is nothing but a Hail Mary, to hang onto the walled garden business
model, even on an unwalled medium. DO READ THAT WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE! It too
makes that point. See if you can find where. Bert
The Internet is full of walled garden business models Bert. You complain about
the walled gardens that Apple operates all the time. You even pay for a walled
garden service as part of your Amazon Prime subscription.
You can call it a Hail Mary if you want; it is a business decision being
implemented by two very powerful industries that create and distribute TV
content to about 85% of U.S. homes using a subscription bundling model.
Regards
Craig
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